1 DR. TEAL: I think that's appropriate. In the paragraph when you 



2 write it up, you make the distinctions that you were just making. 



3 DR. KRAEUTER: All right. Fine. 



4 DR. NEFF: For which commercial species are the canyons nursery 



5 grounds? It might be good to give some examples. 



6 DR. COOPER: Tile fish, lobsters, white hake. 



7 DR. NEFF: To what extent for lobsters? When do they enter the 



8 canyons? 



9 DR. COOPER: The canyon environments, the pueblo village 



10 communities specifically are the only off-shore areas where we've seen 



11 juvenile lobsters, 1 and 2 year olds, 3 year olds. 



12 DR. MACIOLEK: How about goose fish, Dick? 



13 DR. NEFF: They presumably migrate there. 



14 DR. COOPER: No, there's shedding, mating and egg release right up 



15 around the rims in the upper portions of the canyon. 



16 DR. NEFF: Yes, but then they are planktonic for a fairly extended 



17 period of time. 



18 DR. COOPER: That's right. These lobsters are settling out over a 



19 wide range of areas. The ones that settle into the proper substrates of 



20 these canyonhead environments are the ones that survive. 



21 DR. NEFF: We don't know if others migrate in. 



22 DR. COOPER: We know a lot about the migratory behavior. The 



23 lobsters that we call off-shore deep water population lobsters migrate 



24 in shore either up on the Georges Bank or Cape Cod Bay, Long Island 



25 Sound or the southern coast of New Jersey for completed reproductive 



26 cycle, spring, early spring to mid-summer, and then they go back off 



27 shore. 



28 Lobsters from the so-called endemic in-shore populations are quite 



29 distinctive. From all appearances, they do not migrate off shore. 



30 DR. NEFF: I was just curious whether the lobster has to settle in 



31 the canyon to be a resident of the canyon, so to speak, or if the 



32 youngsters can migrate in at an early stage. 



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