1 have been some very large scale die-offs of tile fish because of warm 



2 winds coming in, in areas with a large jump in temperature. 



3 The tile fish, unlike lobsters and hakes, will not emigrate from 



4 the area; instead, they stay there. That is a fairly characteristic 



5 part of their behavior. 



6 DR. BUTMAN: I was just going to ask you something. If lobsters 



7 do well in polluted environments, do they do better in unpolluted 



8 environments? 



9 DR. NEFF: By what standard? 



10 DR. BUTMAN: You are implying that there is no impact of this on 



11 lobsters and-- 



12 DR. COOPER: No, no. 



13 DR. BUTMAN: Okay. 



14 DR. KRAEUTER: You also need to be very careful about what you say 



15 in terms of pollution and sewage pollution. If someone starts spreading 



16 pesticides in an area, you are going to have a much different response 



17 in a lobster, I don't know that you should eat one. 



18 DR. COOPER: Protect the lobster, so no one will eat him. Pollute 



19 the lobster enough so that nobody will eat him, that's good for the 



20 lobsters. 



21 (Laughter) 



22 DR. HECKER: I guess what I have come up with, largely in what 



23 little we do know about some of these organisms, and that goes back to 



24 what Dick was trying to distinguish between, the sessile filter feeders 



25 and the more mobile fauna, is that we feel in commercial species, since 



26 they have a rapid growth and are mobile, you would expect short-term 



27 effects, if there were any. 



28 DR. COOPER: You could kill off all your lobsters, for example, at 



29 the head of one canyon and, within a year or two, there would be a 



30 tremendous amount of immigration from adjacent canyons in that area. 



31 DR. NEFF: That's very important, because if you had isolated 



32 populations, you could destroy it if they intermingle readily. 



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