1 DR. BUTMAN: 2,000 barrels. 



2 DR. TEAL: I guarantee the fishing boats are putting more than 



3 that into the water out there every day. 



4 DR. BUTMAN: Right. 



5 DR. RAY: Again, down the road, Don, from the MMS standpoint, you 



6 know, if there is a recommendation as to where that kind of a discharge 



7 should be, then it should probably come from MMS. 



8 When I say "at the surface," I've seen them discharge it from the 



9 platform and it falls 100 feet through the air onto the surface of the 



10 water; I've seen shunt pipes down right near the surface of the water; 



11 I've seen shunt pipes 5 and 10 meters below the surface of the water. 



12 Without direction, then it is totally variable depending on the 



13 operator. It's real variable. Without direction, they will do it the 



14 easiest, least expensive way possible, as a general criteria. 



15 DR. AURAND: Based on information on the concentration of 



16 hydrocarbons and metals in produced waters, it is-- 



17 DR. GRASSLE: We don't anticipate any water column effects. 



18 DR. AURAND: Is there any discussion? 



19 DR. GRASSLE: Does that imply benthic? 



20 DR. AURAND: That's a good question. If you don't expect water 



21 column effects, do you expect bottom effects? 



22 DR. GRASSLE: The only conceivable way it could accumulate on the 



23 bottom are in situations where there is a lot of sedimentation. What is 



24 your sediment traps sedimentation rates finding? That's the sort of 



25 maximal rate at which stuff is going to be transferred to the bottom. 



26 DR. TEAL: Not in the canyon. 



27 DR. BOTHNER: Just on the shelf? 



28 DR. TEAL: Yes, next to the canyon or something like that. 



29 DR. BOTHNER: Next to the canyon, about 10 grams per day. 



30 DR. GRASSLE: Then you have to make some assumption about the 



31 scavenging of hydrocarbons by particles, which is pretty good. 



32 DR. BOTHNER: But the rate is not primary flux, which is what 



33 happens when you have phytoplankton blooming and falling out but rather, 



34 resuspended flux. 



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