1 spills aren't a very good thing to do, I'm not sure what you can really 



2 say about it. 



3 You can, perhaps, reach a consensus on what you think is largely 



4 a--if there is any reasonable mechanism to get it into the canyon. 



5 DR. GRASSLE: All you can say is there is a potential for long- 



6 term accumulation. That's all you can do. 



7 DR. TEAL: I think you can say there is probably more potential 



8 for getting it into the canyon than depositing it on the surface of the 



9 bank. 



10 DR. GRASSLE: That's right. 



11 DR. TEAL: You've got indications of sediment accumulation. 



12 DR. GRASSLE: That's right. Doesn't Hudson Canyon show 



13 hydrocarbon concentrations are higher in the canyon? 



14 DR. TEAL: That may be from the dump there, too. 



15 DR. GRASSLE: It's from the dump, but the fact is it is higher in 



16 the canyon. 



17 DR. KRAEUTER: I hesitate to try to interpret Jerry Neff's 



18 comment, as he and I talked about this mechanism of transport several 



19 times. Really, I think what he is saying is that we don't know of any. 



20 We know it gets down there, but we don't know what the mechanism is. 



21 DR. TEAL: He said, I think, that he did not see any mechanism for 



22 transporting large quantities of oil. He didn't say he didn't know of 



23 the mechanism of transport to the bottom. He was talking about 



24 putting--! sort of think what he was saying was he didn't see how you 



25 could get great amounts of oil down to the bottom if you had a spill. 



26 DR. RAY: I think that is probably what Jerry was meaning. There 



27 is sedimentation and the fecal pellet routine and a lot of these others, 



28 but there are methods to get large quantities down there, as in looking 



29 at an impact of a large oil spill, or even to get large quantities of 



30 hydrocarbons into the water column, per se, solubilized at depth like 



31 that, there just doesn't appear to be any evidence to suggest that that 



32 happens. 



33 If you get down much below 20 or 30 meters in the water column, it 



34 is very hard to measure very high elevations of hydrocarbons below a 



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