1 Of course, our biggest concern was getting through this part of 



2 it, but I think it is only fair to get all of that stuff in, too. 



3 Anyway, while you are thinking about that, we will all be back in here 



4 tomorrow to look at what they type up and then it will all go out to 



5 everyone. 



6 Jim and I have--it is the first time we have ever tried to do this 



7 and our roles have suddenly changed from what we thought they were going 



8 to be. If anybody has any suggestions whatsoever about the way this 



9 worked out and whether or not some improvements in our technique are 



10 needed, it is a useful way to approach the dissemination of information 



11 and formation of some kind of consensus on issues, we would love to hear 



12 it. 



13 We had some of our own ideas. For example, I think it is very 



14 clear that we should have had some select few documents here for 



15 reference. We got hung up on a couple of points on oil spills, for 



16 example, that if I had my copy of "Oil and Sea" here, somebody could 



17 have gone off and looked up some numbers and we would have been a lot 



18 better off. 



19 This is one thing that we have already seen, that there should be 



20 some people around with some basic reference material to pull out some 



21 information. If there are any format things or ways it was handled 



22 that you think could be improved, we would like to hear them. 



23 DR. RAY: Just one quick observation, Don, and that is that the 



24 next time you do this, whatever the subject may be, not only do you lock 



25 people in for the set period of time that they've agreed to come--of 



26 course, I'm guilty because I'm leaving in the morning. 



27 Not only that, but at the minimum, stick to the timeframe you've 



28 got, because in trying to hurry this thing up, I think we found, the way 



29 the discussions went today, there probably could have been a lot more 



30 discussion. 



31 We kind of rushed into this phase and now you are losing a lot of 



32 people. It would have been nice to have a little bit more time to 



33 explore some of these issues and discuss them a little further and not 



34 be trying to run on a time crunch. 



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