1 You could probably very easily have spent a little bit more time 



2 on some of these topic areas today to be sure all the ideas came out and 



3 everybody was really satisfied with them, and then we would have had 



4 time tomorrow to work towards the conclusions. 



5 I would just say I think you need a little bit more time when you 



6 do one of these types of things. 



7 DR. AURAND: I think we also needed a little bit more up-front 



8 discussion of certain topics, such as formation waters. We didn't know 



9 exactly where this was going to go when we started, but there were some 



10 topics where we clearly, as a group, could have used a little more 



11 information to work from--hand-outs or something, numbers where we could 



12 have begun our calculations. I think that's pretty clear. 



13 DR. KRAEUTER: I think the important thing there is you are going 



14 to have to emphasize up front and re-emphasize and re-emphasize if you 



15 want everybody here for the entire time, because we always tend to cut 



16 it short at the end and say, oh, we can get it done. That last day 



17 tends to disappear into a half a day. Here, a half-day disappeared 



18 entirely. 



19 I think you are going to have to call people and talk to them and 



20 tell them exactly what you are trying to do, so that everybody 



21 understands how long it is really going to take. 



22 DR. AURAND: We did try to do that. 



23 DR. KRAEUTER: You tried, but you are going to have to double or 



24 triple your efforts to be sure that people understand that particular 



25 aspect. 



26 DR. AURAND: The other way is to get more redundancy in the 



27 attendees, but then that increases the size of the meetings, which is 



28 not necessarily--it is hard to manage. 



29 DR. TEAL: I don't think there is much you can do about those 



30 problems. 



31 DR. AURAND: John, we could use the approach we do at the 



32 Scientific Committee which is fake the last day's agenda. 



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