1 canyon work was done, to see our input play a major role in some of this 



2 decision making. Frequently, that has not been the case. 



3 •. DR. AURAND: Does anyone wish to have discussions at this time 



4 about needs? This doesn't have to be studies needs. There could be--I 



5 don't know what you might think of that you do need in terms of 



6 evaluating canyon impacts, but this is an opportunity to put it into a 



7 document where it would get some dissemination, and the same thing with 



8 minority opinions. 



9 Is there any discussion of either of those points before we break? 



10 The opportunity exists to either come tomorrow morning or give it to 



11 someone who is coming tomorrow morning and get it included in the 



12 report. Certainly, you don't have to do it now. 



13 But if there is anything that anybody can think of that they wish 



14 to discuss? 



15 DR. BOTHNER: Will the needs take the form of, for example, 



16 research needs, the things that we would need to-- 



17 DR. AURAND: I would like to see it approached from the point of 



18 view of if there are portions of these conclusions which you are 



19 uncomfortable with because of a research need, it would be appropriate, 



20 I think, to explain what that research need is and how it would address 



21 the issue, going back to my original statement about when should you do 



22 it and what is the issue to address and all those kinds of things. 



23 Yes, I think that would be all right and that would be useful. 



24 DR. KRAEUTER: I think along those lines, one thing that we seemed 



25 to get most hung up on was the rates of accumulation or the mass 



26 balances of things. It seems if we had that, we might have been willing 



27 to make more definitive statements concerning what was going on. I 



28 don't know how everybody else feels, but that is one thing I see. 



29 DR. BUTMAN: Yes, I think rates and net transport directions. 



30 DR. KRAEUTER: And transport directions. 



31 DR. AURAND: On that last point, I have to tell you that the way 



32 this thing originated in the first place was a discussion between Jim 



33 and I that, "Gee, if we could only decide that canyons were erosional, 



34 we could probably figure out where it was okay or not okay to lease." 



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