1 DR. BOTHNER: I do not know that the first rate is--somebody has 



2 come up with a 0.1 cm per year--I do not know where that came from. 



3 The rate we are comparing it to is 0.06 cm per year. 



4 DR. GRASSLE: That is 0.06 cm per year. 



5 DR. BOTHNER: But that changes the conclusion so much that I would 



6 like to know where that 0.1 came from. I do not remember it. 



7 DR. KRAEUTER: Was that Bob Ayers talking about those calculations 



8 they were doing at Toms Canyon? That is what I remember, but I am not 



9 sure at all . 



10 DR. BOTHNER: What I got from his talk is in the canyon axis--you 



11 know, he had 1 percent drilling mud contribution, something like that. 



12 But I do not understand where that value comes from. 



13 DR. MACIOLEK: I do seem to remember Bob Ayers tossing out a 



14 number-- 



15 DR. TEAL: It was 1 percent--it was less than 1 percent in 



16 content. He had them up on (inaudible) board. 



17 DR. KRAEUTER: What does that calculate to? 



18 DR. TEAL: It calculated to be less than 1 percent of the 



19 deposition in Toms Canyon--that was what he showed. 



20 DR. MACIOLEK: Did he leave his--I do not doubt you, but I 



21 wondered if he left his written information from that study. 



22 DR. TEAL: We have some tapes that narrow it down-- 



23 (Simultaneous discussion.) 



24 DR. MACIOLEK: I think the comment is somewhere--it was in the 



25 middle of the afternoon. 



26 DR. TEAL: Where this came from, I think, was the same kind of 



27 calculation as we did for chromium, but I do not know whether 0.1 is 



28 correct. I think that how we got to whatever number we came to-- 



29 DR. BOTHNER: Maybe he and Brad and Jim Ray were sitting in the 



30 back of the room, and I know Brad uses a thousand cubic meters as the 



31 discharge of mud for a well. I mean, that is his thing, right? 



32 (Simultaneous discussion.) 



33 DR. BOTHNER: So let's see if we can reproduce that. 



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