310 OWNERSHIP OF CERTAIN SEALING VESSELS. 



" Q. The original claims that were sent through Mr. Hainley were 

 there then? — A. They were at Ottawa when I got there. 



" Q. And those are the claims that were revised? — A. Those are the 

 claims that were revised. 



" Q. And I understand that the claims that went through Mr. Ham- 

 ley were simply the approved copies of the rough drafts that you took to 

 New York? — A. They were the best copies made from the rough draft. 



" Q. And those are also copies made from the rough draft? — A. Yes; 

 I don't know how they run with the rough draft, because it was not 

 returned to me. The copies were returned to me, but I did not get 

 the rough draft back. 



" Mr. Belyea. I will put in these several documents." 



(Seven documents put in, marked Exhibit J.) 



"Court. You will have to identify those documents. What are 

 they? 



"Mr. Belyea. They are copies of the rough draft of the claims. 



"Court. Where are the rough drafts themselves? 



it Witness. I left them in New York. 



"Q. I thought he said he took them with Mr. Boscowitz' brother to 

 New York, had copies made, then brought them here? — A. No; Mr. 

 Boscowitz' brother introduced me to a lawyer there in New York, and. I 

 left them with him. He thought he could put them in much better 

 shape than we had them ; but he simply made copies of them and sent 

 them back tome; but he retained the rough draft; those are the copies 

 that were sent to me, but we didn't use them. 



"Q. Who made these copies? How do you know they were copies? 

 Were they made in your presence? — A. They were made in my pres- 

 ence. I made no rough copies in New York, and we sent the document 

 to Ottawa. I don't know how correct they are, but I know in every 

 little detail. 



" Q. I do not think (to Mr. Belyea) they are admissible, unless you 

 prove something more than that. 



"Mr. Belyea. I submit that under the circumstances they are quite 

 admissible. We have first the rough draft of those that Capt. Warren 

 took to New York, and left there. That rough draft was to be revised 

 in some way. 



Witness. Put in shape. 



" Mr. Belyea. And forwarded to him. (To witness). Did you go to 

 Ottawa from New York? 



" A. Yes; I went back to Ottawa. 



" Q. And where did you receive those? A. They were sent to me at 

 Ottawa. 



"Attorney-General. We can compare those with some authentic 

 document we have, and then we can tell whether they are true copies. 



"Court. They are not admissible for a moment; it would be doubly 

 assured, because we do not know who drew these copies and made 

 them; and in the next place [to Mr. Belyea], while you allege them to 

 be copies, you say they were left with somebody not to be copied, but 

 altered, and then you say in conflict with these directions they sent you 

 those exact copies. 



" Mr. Belyea. Capt. Warren says they merely copied the rough 

 draft. 



" Court. Has he compared them ? 



" Mr. Belyea. Probably not. If my learned friend has got the origi- 

 nal, let him produce them. 



