TESTIMONY TAKEN ON VANCOUVER ISLAND. 305 



living by hunting seals. I am a King George Indian, and sell my 



skins at Victoria, B. C. The Pachenah Indians use 



almost every part of the seals in some way. We seU m^Sire^ear ^" 



the skins, eat the flesh, take the oil out of the blubber 



and use the paunch for holding it. Not quite half of all seals caught 



along the coast are cows with pups in them. About 



half are young seals, both male and female, and the prJ^SfemaVes*'^* 



rest (a small number) are medium-sized males. We 



never get any old bulls worth speaking of, and we do not catch as 



many gray pups now as formerly. Have not caught any gray pups 



this year. Do not know what has become of them. Have never caught 



any full-grown cows without pups in them, and have never caught any 



cows in milk along the coast. I never hunted seals with a gun ; neither 



have I been in the Bering Sea. 



Charlie (his x mark). 



Witness : 



John P. McGlinn. 

 C. E. Gay. 



Subscribed and sworn to before me on this 27th day of April, 1892. 



[SEAL.] Clarence P. Brown, 



Notary PuUic in and for the State of Washington. 



Deposition of Glat-lca-lcoi, native chief and sealer, 



PELAGIC SEALING. 



Clat-ka-koi, of the village of Toquat (Barclay Sound), and one of the 

 chiefs thereof, being first duly sworn, deposes and says : 

 That he is 50| years of age, and belongs to the villages Experience. 

 of Toquat and Sechart, at present residing in Toquat, 

 and is a native of the village of Sechart. He states that to his knowl- 

 edge the seals do not breed in the waters of Barclay g^^j^ ^^ ^^^ ^^^^^ 

 Sound, but go ashore for that purpose a long distance in Barclay sonnci. 

 to the northward. He does not hunt seal in schooners. 

 He began sealing in his canoe, just oft" the west coast of Vancouver 

 Island, shortly after last New Year, and fished for seal firom five to 

 seven miles off the coast and caught from five to ten seals a day. He 

 says he averaged about five a day, in one canoe manned by two natives. 

 This season this village (Toquat) got eighty-six seals, and four canoes 

 were manned from this village. He has never seen geais never «een on 

 seals on shore in Barclay Sound, or on kelp or other ah ore in Barclay 

 objects. When fishing outside he has never seen baby Sound, 

 seals. Sometimes a few seals follow schools of herring into sound and 

 go out hurriedly. On such occasions a few are killed. Ko sealing ves- 

 sels touched here last year. His son is only Indian who went north 

 from this village last year. He went in schooner Ariel, and caught 

 one thousand and eighty (1,080), all in Bering Sea. No Indians have 

 gone north from this village this year. He states that Ohiat is largest 

 \illage in Barclay Sound. Population 260. The towns and popula- 

 tions are as follows: Mchuelet, 184; Toquat, 22; Sechart, 170; Mchuck- 

 leset, 34; Hopucheiset and Ohiat, 260. 



Clat-ka-koi (his x mark). 



Attest : 



E. T. WiTHERSPOON. 



Harry George. 

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