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get almost all that we hit. There are about one hundred seal hunters 

 that live at Pachenah Bay, and make their living by hunting seals. 

 There is hardly any part of the seal but what is used in some way by 

 the Indians. About half of all seals caught along the 

 on'^oasffema^es**'^^'' coast are COWS with pups in them; a few medium-sized 

 males are also taken, and the rest are young seals of 

 both sexes. We scarcely ever see an old bull seal, nor can we tell the sex 

 of the seals in the water. I have never caught any full-grown cows 

 along the coast that did not have pups in them. 



In 1887 I went sealing in the Bering Sea on the 

 *' ■ British or Japanese schooner Ada. I do not know the 



name of her master, but he was a white man. She carried seven canoes, 

 each manned by two Indians, and one stern boat with three white men. 

 The Indians hunted with spears and the white men with guns. We 

 sealed around Unalaska, but did not go toward the 

 catchin Bering Sea Pribilof Islauds. We caught 1,900 seals, all of which 

 mosty a nursing ^^^^ capturcd in the sca, close to Unalaska; most 

 all of them were cows in milk ; but when we first en- 

 tered the sea we killed a few cows that had pups in them. We were 

 seized, while in there, about the 1st of August, by the 

 Seized. United States revenue- cutter Bear, and aU of our skins 



were taken away. 



In 1889 1 went again to the sea in the sealing schooner 

 Mmme,im. ^fjnniej Jacobson, master. She carried eight canoes 



and two boats. Two Indians who used spears were employed in each 

 canoe, and three white men, using guns, were in each boat. One boat 

 with three white men got more seals than one canoe with two Indians. 

 The white men shot a great many seals that they did not get, but the In- 

 dians secured nearly all that they speared. That year 

 mosti'^^nurSn'.i^ows* ^^ scalcd cast of the isUiud and caught about 800 seals. 

 mos y nursi « " I do uot kuow how far wc wcrc from the islands, for we 

 could not see them. The seals we caught were mostly cows with milk. 

 In 1891 I went up to the Bering Sea in the same vessel, and she had 

 the same master and carried the same number of boats 

 Minnie, 1891. ^^^ canoes. That year we sealed to the northwest of 



Catch in Bering Sea. the islauds and cauglit 700 or 800 seals. When I was 

 in the sea in 1887 seals were very plentiful there, but 

 in 1889 there were not so many, and in 1891 there were fewer still, and 

 I think after awhile they will all soon be destroyed if 

 ecrease. they keep on hunting them with guns. When in Ber- 



ing Sea I had an opportunity to observe the difference in the number 

 of seals lost by killing them with shotguns and by tak- 

 wasteofhfe. .^^^ ^j^^^ ^..^^^ spcars. The hunters that used shot- 



guns lost more than one-half they shot, while the hunters that used 

 spears seldom ever lost one that they hit. 



Moses (his x mark). 

 Witness : 



0. P. Brown. 

 C. E. Gay. 



Subscribed and sworn to before me on this 27th day of April, A. D. 

 1892. 

 [SEAL.] Clarence P. Brown, 



Notarij Public in and for the State of Washimiton, 



Residing at Fort Angeles^ Washington. 



