440 TESTIMONY 



Q. Of what sex are tlie seals taken by you, or usually killed by the 

 hunting vessels in the North Pacilic or Bering Sea"? — 



Mostly females and * T?tiinQlac 



pioguiint. ^' -feniaies. 



Q. What percentage of them are females? — A. It is 

 very seldom that jou ever get hold of a male. 



Q. What percentage of the cows taken are with pup? — A. In the 

 early part of the season, up to June, all the full-grown cows are with 

 pup. 



Q. Did you ever kill any cows whose young were born, and were 

 giving milk"?— A. That I don't remember taking notice of. I can not 

 answer that question. 



,.,.,, Q. In vour o])inion, are any of the pups born in the 



^o pelagic liirth. T^ a *^4 i i it. j.i • i 



* " water? — A. 1 don't think so. 



Born only on I'lib- Q- Or aiiywhcre else except on the seal islands"?— 



ilof Islands. A, 1 doil't thillk SO. 



Q. Have you ever seen any seal i>ups in the Pacific that were 

 youngcv than those born the year lU'cvious"? — A. Down at Guadaloup 

 Island about three months ago, I killed a cow there that had a puj) 

 that was too young to come from tlie I>eiing Sea and evidently had 

 been born aiound there. That is about the only case I have seen. 



i). The piii)s that you see in the Pacific this year are those born last 

 year. You don't see those born this year"? — A. No sir; I do not. 



Q. Have you noticed any decrease in the quantity 

 Decieaao. ^j- g^als ill tlic hist fcw ycars ! — A. Yes, sir; a great 



decrease. 

 Cause. Q. To what do you attribute the cause? — A. Killing 



olf the females; whale-killers and sharks kilJ a good many, 



Q. If sealing continues as heretofine, is there any danger of extermi- 

 nating them?— A. Yes, sir; I think a few years will do that. 



Q. Do you consider it necessary to protect the seals 

 ^Protection neces- .^^ ^j^^ ^^orth Pacific?— A. Yes, sir; it will be neces- 

 sary to protect them anywhere where it can be done. 

 Q. Are seals generally shot with a ritle or shotgun? — A. Both rifie 

 and shotgun; mostly shotguns. 



Q. In your o])inion, do the seals on the Eussian side 

 kan"herdsd'o"notm?n- intermingle Avith those on the Pacific side, or are they 

 gi«. a separate herd? — A. They do not intermingle at all. 



Q. If the cow seals are to be protected in the Bering Sea, wlmt 

 month do you consider it Avould be necessary to prohibit any being 

 tiken? — A. I should consider it necessary to i)rotect them all the time 

 they are in the Bering Sea. 



Deposition of FranJc Johnson, sealer {hunter and mate). 



Frank Johnson, having been duly sworn, testified as follows: 

 Mr. Williams : 



Q. Wliat is your name, age, residence, and occupation"? — A. IMy 

 name is Frank Johnson; age, 33; occupation, master mariner; resi- 

 dence, San Francisco. 



Q. Are you an American citizen? — A. Yes, sir. 



Q. Have you ever been engaged in the business of catching seals in 

 the Pacific or Bering Sea?— A. Yes, sir. 



