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rifles. We left Victoria about tlie latter part of February, and sailed 

 around Cape Flattery, sealing there for awhile. Then we sailed north 



Catch in Pacific ^^ *^® Bering Sea, sealing all the way along the coast. 

 mostly^ pregnant^ fe- We had 300 Or 400 scals altogether before entering 

 ™^®^- the Bering Sea; they were most all females, which had 



young pups in them. 



We entered the sea about the middle of June and sealed around the 



Berinn^ sei time of P^'i^i^of Islauds, Sealing from 5 to 10 miles and some- 

 enter7n|. '^'^' "^^° timcs 40 milcs off the islands. I do not remember the 



Mostly uursinn- nnmbcr of scals that we got in the Bering Sea, but 

 females' taken iS they wcrc mostly mother seals with their breasts full 



Bering Sea. ^^ ^^^^^ ^y^ ^^^ ^^^^^ ^^^ ^^^^ ^^ ^^.^^.^ ^^,^ ^^^^^ ^,^ 



Waste of life. killed Or wouudcd. There was any amount of them 



that we shot and did not get at all. It seemed as if a 

 good many got away. 



Ill 1887 I went codfishing in the barkentine Premmm to the Bering 

 and Okhotsk seas. We left San Francisco in April. We saw seals 

 that year, but the captain did not bother with them. 

 Maggie Bo,s. j ^^^^ ^^^ ^^^ Bering Sea on the Maggie Ross from Vic- 



toria, of which Captain Olsen was master. I shipped as a boat-x)uller. 

 She had six boats, three men to a boat, and we used Spencer rifles. We 

 sailed from Victoria in June and went due north, and commenced seal- 

 ing in the Bering Sea, catching about 400 seals. We hunted around 

 the islands there, from 50 to 60 miles offshore. Most 

 nurs*ngc''owT°'°^"^ of thosc wcrc females that had given birth to their 

 young and were with milk. We had some white hunt- 

 ers and Indian hunters. I do not think that we lost as many that year 

 in proi)ortion to those that we killed as we did in the 

 AVaste of life. Triumph. We got about one out of every three killed 



and wounded. They were better hunters. I was also codfishing in 

 1884. There were a great many more seals in the water 



Decrease. .^.j^^^^ ^^^^ ^j^^^,^ ^^.^^ -^ -^ggg_ j^ -j^gg^^ ^^^^^^ ^^^ ^^^^^^ 



cod-fisliing, weraetthe steam whaler Thrasher, and I heard the captain 

 remark that it was a damned shame the way they were killing the 

 female seals in the Bering Sea. 



Wm, McLaughlin. 



Subscribed and sworn to before me this 15th day of April, A. D. 1892. 

 [SEAL.] Clement Bennett, 



Notary Public. 



Deposition of Thomas Madden, sealer (Jboat-puller). 



pelagic sealing. 



State of Califoemia, 



City and County of San Francisco, ss: 



Thomas Madden, havingbeen duly sworn, deposes and says : Iresidein 



Victoria, British Columbia. My occupation is that of 



Experience. a scaman. I havc been going to the Bering Sea over 



twelve years on whalers and sealers. I went sealing in 



Black Diamond, 1888, 1889, 1890, and 1891 on the Blacic Diamond. We 



1888-1891. left Vic tori a along in January of each year. Iwasaboat- 



puller. We came down each year to the coast of Oregon, then went 



along up the coast to the Bering Sea. I do not recollect the exact num- 



'^ .^^ ^ y^ ber of seals we caught in 1888, 1889, and 1890, but last 



ak ni 181)1. ^^^^^, ^^^ caught about 150 along the coast. I did not 



