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APPENDIX TO COUNTER-CASE OP GREAT BRITAIN. 



Henry A. Qlidden {1882-85). 



1. "Q. What do you say about 

 the increase or dimiuutiou of the 

 number of seals ou the rookeries 

 of St. Paul aud St. George?— A. 

 I did not notice any change, but 

 they vary in different years, in St. 

 George particularly. ... I 

 could not see any particular differ- 

 ence." — (H. E., 50th Congress, 2nd 

 Session, Report No. 3883, p. 27.) 



2. Does not speak of dead pups 

 before Committee on Merchant 

 Marine and Fisheries, in 1888, but 

 in answer to "Do you know any- 

 thing of seals being killed in the 

 water by unauthorized persons?" 

 says "No, Sir."— (H. E., 50th Con- 

 gress, 2nd Session, Eeport No. 3883, 

 p. 26.) 



3. "Q. I would ask whether 

 there are not trading- vessels which 

 buy skins'? — A. Yes, Sir, and steal 

 skins; that is the great trouble we 

 had — to watch nu^rauders. That 

 was more trouble than anything 

 else." — (H. E., 50th Congress, 2nd 

 Session, Eeport No. 3883, p. 26.) 



"Q. As agent of the Govern- 

 ment, were you charged with the 

 duty of looking after violations of 

 the laws of the United States in 

 Behriug Sea by vessels and 

 others'? — A. Yes. 



" Q. Was there much trouble in 

 this respect i — A. Yes, Sir ; a good 

 deal sometimes. 



Q. By foreign vessels, by hunt- 

 ers of our country as well as for- 

 eigners '? — A. Yes, Sir. There have 

 been a number captured there. 



" Q. What is the quest of these 

 hunters'? Do they hunt in the 

 open seas, or do they attempt to 

 hunt on these islands'? — A. They 

 come to seal islands in the night — 

 on moonlight nights. We took a 

 vessel loaded with seals while they 

 were ou the islands. We got into 

 the vessel and took possession of 

 it while they were on the islands 

 killing seals."— (H. E., 50th Con- 

 gre s, 2nd Session, Eeport No. 

 388 , p. 28.) 



1. " I am unable to state whether 

 the seals increased or not during 

 my residence on St. Paul, but they 

 certainly did not decrease, except, 

 perhaps, there was a slight de- 

 crease in 1884." — (United States 

 Case, vol. ii, p. 109.) 



2. "I never noticed or examined 

 dead pups on the rookeries before 

 1884, the number being so small, 

 but that year examined them. 

 . . . . In my judgment they 

 were starved to death because 

 their mothers had been killed while 

 away from the islands in search of 

 food." — (United States Case, p. 

 110.) 



3. "Eaids on the rookeries by 

 marauders did not, while I was ou 

 the islands, amount to anything, 

 and certainly seal life was not 

 aflected to any extent by such in- 

 cursions. I only knew of one raid 

 upon St. Paul Island while I was 

 there. It was a Japanese vessel, 

 aud they killed about 100 seals, 

 the carcasses of which we found 

 on board when we captured the 

 seals." — (United States, p. 111.) 



