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2. In 1891 I was boat-puller for John Townsend, liunter. He got 214 

 skins — 109 on the coast and 105 on the Copper Island grounds. He ' 

 lost 9 by sinking on the coast and 6 at Copper Island. These figures 

 are from memory, and, I believe, correct. 



3. I do not remember if I ever noticed what the proportion of females 

 was in his catch. I know there were some cows with pup taken on the 

 coast, but none at Copper Island. 



4. This year I hunted myself, and got 66 skins — 33 on the coast and' 

 33 at Copper Island grounds. I lost 2 by sinking, both on the coast in 

 rough weather. I wounded 12 or 15 that escaped. Some of these 

 might have died of their wounds. 



5. That one-half of those 1 got on the coast were females, most of 

 them young cows; I only got 4 or 5 cows on the coast in pup. 



(J. Last year the "Viva" sailed across Behring Sea to the Copper 

 Island grounds, after being warned not to seal on the eastern side. 

 This was in the first week of July. We saw seals west of Four Moan- 

 tain Pass. 



7. That the seals on the Copper Island side have darker fur than 

 those on this coast, but are alike in all other respects. 



And I make this solemn declaration conscientiously believing the 

 same to be true, and by virtue of "The Act respecting Extra- Judicial 

 Oaths." 



(Signed) James McKae. 



Subscribed and declared by the said James McEae before me, a 

 Notary Public duly commissioned, and residing and practising at the 

 city of Victoria, in the Province of British Columbia, this 24tli day of 

 November, A. D. 1892. 



[SEAL.] (Signed) Arthur L. Belyea, 



A Notary Public in and for the Province of British Columbia, 



Declaration of Joseph Brown, 



Dominion op Canada, 



Province of British Columbia, City of Victoria. 



I, Joseph Brown, of the city of Victoria, in the Province of British 

 Columbia, Canada, seal hunter, do solemnly declare: 



1. That I have been six years out in sealing-schooners on the North 

 Pacific coast and two years of the six in Behring Sea. 

 102 2. In 1887 I was on the " San Diego" sealing on the coast until 



May; the rest of the season was sea-otter- hunting on Kadiak 

 grounds. In 1888 on the " Sylva Handy" seal and sea otter hunting as 

 before; in 1889 on the "Triumph," on coast trip; in 1890 on the "MoUie 

 Adams;" in 1891 on the "Carmolite," and in 1892 on the "Oscar and 

 Hattie." 



3. In all years I was out, excejjt 1892, 1 was a boat-steerer, and obtained 

 a full knowledge of actual seal-hunting by white hunters using shot- 

 guns and rifles. I have been boat-steerer for seven diftereut hunters 

 in five years. They were all good average hunters. On the " Carmo- 

 lite" last year the hunter I was with got over 300 skins and lost only 9 

 by sinking. His name was Adolphus Porter, antl it was his first year 

 seal-hunting. In 1887, on the -'City of San Diego," the hunter I was 

 with got 70 skins, and lost by sinking 5. On the "Triumph," in 1»89, 

 I steered for Fred Gilbert; he got only 15 skins while I was with him, 

 but lost none at all. The "Triumph" got damaged in a storm and 

 returned to port, where I left her. 



