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Islaucls. I there heard that both the Hnssiau and. Americans were 

 seizing sealing schooners, and I came home. 



There is no difference between the seals on the Japan coast and on 

 the American coast. I took 1,517 skins on the Japan coast, and saw 

 enongh seals to be able to form a good idea as to whether the animals 

 on both sides of the Pacific Ocean were the same, and I consider that 

 they are the same. 



I have read over the statements set down in this affidavit, and swear 

 that they are all trne, and swear that I have received no consideration 

 for having made them. 



(Signed) Hikam B. Jones. 



Snbscribed and sworn to before me this 12th day of October, 1892, 

 by Hiram B. Jones, in testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand 

 and oflicial seal this 12th day of October, 1892, 



[SEAL.] (Signed) W. H. White, 



Notary Puhiiv residing at Seattle, King's County, 



State of Washington, 



Dejjosition of Edicard Cantillion. 



State of Washington, County of King, City of Seattle, 

 Edward Cantillion, having been duly sworn, deposes as follows: 

 I have been engaged in the sealing business for the past four years. 

 In 1889 I was on the "Allie I. Alger" in the spring, and the "Mary 

 Ellen" for the north coast and Behring Sea hunting. 



In 1890 I was on the schooner "Viva" as hnnter for the whole sea- 

 son, and in 1891 was on the steam-schooner "Thistle" as hnnter. This 

 year I was out as master of the " Willard Ainsworth," a Seattle schooner, 

 and hunted as well. 

 I am a citizen of the United States of America. 

 In 1889 I was new at hunting, and shot at seals when I was not sure 

 of getting them. I killed about 400 that year, and lost by sinking as 

 many as 1 in 12, I think. In 1890 I took 450 skins, and lost, I think, 

 about 5 to 8 for every 100 I got. Last year, on the " Thistle," I went 

 out late, and did no sealing but one half-day in Behring Sea, so that our 

 catch was small. I secured 80 skins, and lost 3 or 4 by sinking. It is 

 not difficult to remember about the number lost by sinking, because we 

 are always sorry when a seal is lost, and rememl3er it and speak of it 

 afterwards. A poor hunter imagines that he loses many more by sink- 

 ing than is really the case. He will shoot at a seal and miss it, and 

 because he may not see it again he will say that ne sank it, and such a 

 man will often come back on board the schooner without many seals, 

 and will say that he saw very few seals, and that he sank most of those 

 he shot at. A hunter will make all sorts of excuses to account for his 

 having got few seals. 



This year I did not start until Aj^ril, and took only 223 seals, and did 

 not lose more than 5 by sinking. When a seal is wounded I always 

 chase it until there is no hope of getting it, and I do not think there 

 aie many wounded that get away and die afterwards. I have seen seals 

 in schools from below Cape Flattery north to Behring Sea, but when 

 they are in bunches it is almost impossible to get any of tiiem. I think 

 that males and females go in separate bands sometimes, but know that 

 when seals are very plentiful the two sexes are mixed together. I saw 

 this year more seals on the coast than I ever saw before, but they are 



