714 APPENDIX TO COUNTER-CASE OF GREAT BRITAIN. 



16. A vessel is supplied with ammunition on the basis of about 2,000 

 rounds a hunter; considering a good hunter's catch to be 500 seals, or 

 allowing- four shells per seal. Perhaps as many as twenty shots may 

 be tired at a seal without mortally wounding him, or even hitting him 

 for that matter; aud again a seal may be mortally wounded but still 

 able to struggle, and we continue tiring until we get him. A hunter is 

 uever restricted in the quantity of ammunition he can use, but is 

 allowed to practise as nuich as he pleases, and a large quantity of 

 ammuriition is used in this way. 



17. A seal that has been hard to kill, and has struggled a good deal, 

 so inflates his lungs that he cannot sink, and is always got by the hun- 

 ter. As with all other mammals, the male seal has teats, and it takes a 

 competent expert to tell the difference between a male or female skin 

 after it has been removed from the carcase. 



18. On or about the 1st April last I went on board the United States 

 revenue- cutter " Corwin " in Neah Bay, at the request of Captain 

 Hooper, and made a statement to Mr. Lavender, who, I understand, 

 was appointed by the American Government to investigate the sealing 

 question, and what I then said is substantially the same as the fore- 

 going. Mr. Lavender had a white hunter named Brown engaged from 

 San Francisco to practically illustrate the modus operandi of pelagic 

 sealing with gun and rifle. I know this hunter Brown, and personally 

 would not take him on a sealing voyage, as he is not a competent hun- 

 ter, and I don't think he could get employment as a hunter on any of 

 the sealing- vessels leaving this port. 



19. I have not been paid anything, nor has anything been promised 

 me, in consideration of making this statement, which 1 have read over 

 and found correct. 



(Signed) Geo. Wester. 



Subscribed and sworn to before me, this 25th day of oSTovember, 1892. 

 [SEAL.] (Signed) Lincoln Sonntag, Notary Public. 



Deposition of Captain Charles 'Lutj en. 



State of California, City and County of San Francisco, s.s. 



Captain Charles Lutjens, of San Francisco, being duly sworn, deposes 

 and says : 



1. I reside in San Francisco, and am master and owner of the sealing- 

 vessel " Kate and Anna." I have been engaged in the sealing business 

 as master since 1886, but am not a practical hunter, though I have 

 been out almost every year since 1886, and feel competent to speak on 

 the sealing question. 



2. I have hunted along the coast from here to the Aleutian Islands, 

 the Behring Sea while it was open, aud on the Eussian and Japanese 

 coasts. 



3. This year I hunted on the Japan coast, and made a southern pas- 

 sage over through the Sandwich Islands. The catch of my schooner 

 for the season was about 1,400, 1,250 being caught on the Japan coast, 

 and the rest caught between from 40 to 100 miles south of the Com- 

 mander Islands and these were seized and confiscated. I returned to 

 San Francisco, south of the Aleutian Islands, about the beginning of 

 September, and noticed seals as I came along more or less every day. 



4. In 1886— from the 20th July to 20th August— I got 400 seals in 

 Behring Sea. 



