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In 1SS7 I got 5S0 seals up to tlie Stli August in Beliring Sea, and on 

 that day I was seized. In 1888 and 1881) I did not Inint, as my vessel 

 was confiscated, and I had not got her back. In 1890 I was very late 

 getting started from here. In the latter i)art of May I started directly 

 for Behring Sea, and got 300 seals. In 1891 my coast catch was 180, 

 and on going into Behring Sea on the 6th July ax as warned out, and 

 went directly to the liussian side, where I got 450. I did not see many 

 seals in crossing on that occasion, and I could not distinguish to what 

 group of islands those I did see belonged, as they did not appear to be 

 travelling to any particular group. 



5. I cannot say that I notice any difference in the number of seals 

 now than when I first began sealing, but my hunters all tell me they 



are nuich wilder. 

 122 0. Of my catch along the coast going nortli four-fifths would 



be females, and I think about four- fifths would be carrying pups. 

 Very few old bulls are caught. The proportion of males to females in 

 the Behring Sea appears to me to be about the same, but the cows are 

 then in milk, and I have seen the cows caught in milk as far as 150 

 miles irom the islands. About one-fifth of the cows taken are barren. 



7. I have not heard of any vessels sealing in Behring Sea this year 

 that were not warned away or seized, and I would likely have heard of 

 it if there were any. 



8. I think that skins taken on this coast are better than those taken 

 on the Japanese or Kussian coasts, and I think I could tell the differ- 

 ence between them. 



9. I think that some protection should be given the seal, and would 

 prevent all killing after the 1st July, and that any protection made 

 should apply to the rookeries. 



10. I gave a statement to a lawyer or Notary Public in this city in 

 February last on this subject, but I cannot remember his name, but 

 what I said was substantially the same as the foregoing statement. I 

 was not sworn on that occasion, as far as I can remember. 



11. In my opinion, 5 per cent, will cover the loss of seals by sinking 

 after being shot, that is to say, with a good hunter; of course, a poor 

 hunter will not do so well. 



12. I never restrict my hunters in the amount of ammunition they 

 use for practice, and there is a great deal used in that way and in 

 hunting game. 



13. I have not been paid anything, nor has anything been promised 

 me, in consideration of making the foregoing statement, which I have 

 read over and find correct. 



(Signed) Charles Lutjens. 



Subscribed and sworn to before me, this 26th day of November, 1892. 

 [SEAL.] (Signed) Lincoln Sonntag, Notary Fuhlic. 



Deposition of Charles Hartiwen. 



State op California, City and County of San Francisco, s.s. 



Charles Hartiwen, of Alameda, California, being duly sworn, deposes 

 and says: 



1. I reside In Alameda, State of California, and have been sixteen 

 years a hunter and sealer, and have been and am now for the past two 

 years captain of the steam-sealer " Louis Olseu." Have been master 



