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123 9. I have often seen seals coliabiting- in the water, and by kill- 



ing; the cow first have had no trouble in getting the bull. 



10. Not half the ammunition we take out is used in killing seals. 

 We allow our hunters to practise as much as they like, and to use what 

 they like in other hunting. 



11. Seals that are killed after a struggle and after being shot several 

 times do not sink as fast as those killed outright, and we hunters pay 

 no attention to them if there are other senls about that can be got, as 

 we can always come back after them and get them; this is because 

 their lungs get filled with air. One of the reasons for all the talk 

 about seals sinking and getting lost is because poor hunters, after 

 firing a great many shots and not getting a seal, feel ashamed, and 

 come back saying the seal or vseals had sunk. 



12. We shoot with shot-gun from 10 to 30 yards, and with a rifle 

 from 30 yards to 100. 



13. A pregnant seal or a seal carrying pui> is more on the watch than 

 any other, and harder to get. 



14. I have not been paid anything, nor has anything been promised 

 me, in consideration of making the foregoing statement, which I have 

 read over and find correct. 



(Signed) Charles Hartiwen. 



Subscribed and sworn to before me, this 25th day of November, 1892. 

 [seal.] (Signed) Lincoln Sonntag, Notary Fuhlic. 



Deposition of Milton Scott. 



State of California, City and County of San Francisco^ s.s. 



Milton Scott, of Petaluma, Sonoria County, State of California, being 

 dulj' sworn, deposes and swears: 



I reside in Petaluma, State of California, and am a seal-hunter. I 

 was out in the "Henry Denis," Captain Miner, this year, and sealed all 

 the way from Cape Blanco north to Behring Sea and across to the 

 Copper Islands. The vessel got 2,408 seals, and I personally got 403 — 

 all with shot-gun and rifle, and I kept track of all I lost, and the 

 total was 10. Last year I was in the "Viva," Captain Baker, and the 

 schooner's catch was 1,992, of which I shot 398 myself, and lost only 

 3 seals. I also kept track that year, and am positive of what I say. 

 The year before that (1891) I was on the "Lily L.," Captain Walsh, my 

 first season. The schooner's catch was 2,030, of which I shot 390, and 

 lost 13 seals. I kept count of those I lost in conseijuence of the agita- 

 tion in the papers here and elsewhere against scaling with the gun and 

 rifle. 



I think that I saw last j'ear more seals than I ever saw since I 

 hunted first, and 1 do not think their number is diminishing, but they 

 are growing wilder and harder to get on account of so many hunting 

 them. I have hunted in Behring Sea for one year. Along the coast 

 for the last two years I have killed more males than females — I M^ould 

 say four males to one female, and the year I was in Behring Sea (1891) 

 I got about half and half as regards sexes. On the coast this year we 

 got very few cows carrying pup. I know this because we were trying 

 to get a number of unboi-u pups, and found it ditticult to get what we 

 wanted. Of the total take of cows along the coast — about 300 — not 

 more than 100 Avere pregnant, the others being too young to breed, or 

 barren cows. 



