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2. I have been hunting for fur-skins for the past sixteen years, and 

 have been more or less for all that time engaged in killing seals. 



I am captain of the "Louis Olsen," a sealing-vessel belonging to 

 William Olsen, and which hails from Astoria, in the State of Oregon, 

 and have commanded her for the past two years. 



3. I returned tbis year from my sealing voyage on the coast of Japan 

 on the 16th August, and entered at this port (San Francisco) on the 

 following morning, and had on board 1,334 fur-seal skins, all taken on 

 the Japan coast except 23 which were got within 50 miles from San 

 Francisco. 



4. The skins were removed from my vessel ("Louis Olsen") on the 18th 

 August last, and were taken without any insi)ection to the ware rooms 

 of the firm of H. Liebes and Co., of this city, and no outsiders were 

 present for that purpose when the skins were unloaded from the vessel 

 and removed on trucks to the ware-rooms of the said firm of H. Liebes 

 and Co. ; and the time occupied in unloading from the vessel and deliv- 

 ering the skins into the cellar of the said firm of H. Liebes and Co. did 

 not occupy the space of three hours; only sufticient time was taken to 

 count them at the vessel and on delivery into the cellar, when I tallied 

 them each time. 



5. In the forenoon of the following day, the 19th August, I met the 

 owner of the vessel, when he told me he had sold the skins to the firm 

 of Liebes and Co., where I had the night before delivered the skins, 

 and that they had found seventy-nine greys (meaning yearling pups). 

 I objected, and went up to the ware-rooms of H. Liebes to see them 

 picked out (this was on the same day, the lOtb August). When I got 

 there 1 found H. Liebes, the head of the firm, Charles J. Behlow, a 

 partner in the firm of Liebes and Co., or a man I supposed to be him, 

 and two or three other employes of the firm of Liebes and Co., and 

 William Olsen, the owner of the vessel, also accomx)anied me and was 

 present. 



6. The skins had evidently been gone over since the previous night, 

 for the pup-skins had been separated from the rest, and they were 

 counted over in my jiresence, and they numbered 79, and I was aston- 

 ished to find so many, for I considered I had from 34 to 30, but 1 had to 

 acknowledge it, and let it go at 79. 



7. I consider it impossible for any expert in skins to infallibly pick 

 out male from female skins after they have been salted and before 

 being dressed, and it is absolutely impossible to select from a large 

 number of salted skins those of cows that had been carrying pup and 

 had their pups taken from them after death, and to attempt to arrive 

 with any degree of accuracy at a conclusion of that kind would occupy 

 several days with the number of skins I had — over 1,300. 



8. I have been sailing from this port for the past sixteen years, and 

 for most of that time have been engaged in hunting seals, and am 

 familiar with the names of all the vessels that go sealing, and know by 

 reputation or personally all those connected with the sealing business 

 from this port, either as hunter, steerer, or boat-puller, and I do not 

 know of any one in either of the foregoing capacities named Thomas 

 Bradley, nor Charles Challal, nor Peter Collins, nor John Dalton, nor 

 Joseph Dennis, nor Richard Dolan, nor Peter Duffy, nor George Fair- 

 child, nor William Frazer, nor John Fyfe, nor Thomas Gibson, nor 

 James Griffin, nor Martin Hannon, nor Andrew J. Hoffman, nor James 

 Kean, nor James Kennedy, nor James Kiernan, nor Caleb Linduht, nor 

 William H. Long, nor Thomas Lyons, nor William Mclsaac, nor Wil- 

 liam McLaughlin, nor Thomas Madden, nor James Mulvy, nor Patrick 



