APPENDIX TO COUNTElt-CASE OF GREAT BRITAIN. 753 



Declaration of Charles Hayuks. 



Dominion of Canada, Province of British ColumMa, to wit: 



I, Oliaiies Hayuks, of Barclay Sound, Vancouver Island, do solemnly 

 declare as follows: 



1. I am a policeman, a native appointed for tlie purpose of prevent- 

 ing drinking- and gambling among the Indians. 



2. I have hunted lur-seals from the shore of the land about Barclay 

 Sound for fourteen years, and liave hunted as a hunter from schooners. 

 I first went out in small schooners that would take us out and bring us 

 back every time the wind would blow. We would limit early in the 

 season in canoes from the shore, for then the seals were close in to the 

 shore, but later in the season we would go out in the schooners. 



3. Four years ago 1 was north in the '• Black Diamond," "and was in 

 the " Aretas" this year. 



4. When I went out in canoes from the shore we sometimes got 10 

 seals, sometimes 12, but sometimes fewer; 14 was the most I remember 

 getting. Sometimes we found the seals 5 miles from land, and some- 

 times 10 miles; two or three men went in a canoe, but only one hunted. 

 We used to use si)ears only, but now use both the spear and gun. We 

 are now obliged to use guns. The seals are getting much wilder now, 

 and it is very hard to get them with a spear. 



5. When v.'e shoot seals we never lose them; when they are shot we 

 spear them and haul them on board; we use the spear in the same way 

 a white man uses the gaff. 



6. The reason we get the seals for sure is that a canoe is easier 

 handled, and we are quicker than the white man. 



7. When the herring are plentiful and come in close there are plenty 

 of seals, but when the herring are scarce or don't come in close we 

 don't get many. Last spring — a year ago last spring — there were great 

 numbers of fish and of seals. We took over 1,000 seals at Barclay 

 Sound from the shore. 



8. We see the first seals a little before Christmas, and continue tak- 

 ing them until June, but there are seals about all summer. 



9. 1 never heard of seals being seen on the rocks. 



10. When out on the schooner this year I saw as many seals as I ever 

 saw before. None of us Indians think the seals are any fewer. 



11. While the seals are near the shore we would rather hunt them in 

 canoes from the shore, but when they leave we like to go out on the 

 schooners. We get good pay, and I am willing to go out on schooners. 



12. If we could be left to hunt in our ow'n way from the shore in the 

 spring, I have no fault to find with the way sealing is carried on, but 

 we don't like the white man's boats coming close in shore when we are 

 hunting. After the seals go north we dou't care who hunts them, and 

 have no fear that they will be all killed. 



13. I solemnly declare that I have told all I know about sealing, and 

 what I think about it, and that I have received no consideration for 

 the information I have given. My object in telling about the seals is 

 only that all the truth may be known, and if the " Boston " men say 

 that I told them anything different it is not true, because I told them 

 just what I have said now, and everything has been now explained to 

 me, and it is all right. 



B S, PT VUI 4.8 



