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ing." I told liim I liad been sealing for about tliirt^-six years. He 

 asked me if tliat was all I knew. I said "Yes; but my son knows 

 sometliiiig." He said, "Does your sou know wliere the seal luive their 

 young in Beliring Sea"?" Then I was done, and my son commenced to 

 talk. 



I was forgetting. I told bim I bad seen seals inside of Barclay Sound, 

 and have killed them as far up as "Turn Point," and even farther up 

 the canal. I told him that when the bait woiild come in sometimes I 

 would go out and get three seals in a little while, and have gone a mile 

 and a-half outside of Village Island when the herring have been plenty 

 and seen lots, and that I had seen a canoe get from 15 to 20 a day there. 

 I told him I sealed from shore from six weeks to two months when 

 there are plenty of seals; also told him that we used to hunt for four 

 months from shore till the white men came and hunted them away. I 

 told him that this year our tribe had got 750 seals with nineteen canoes 

 fishing from the shore, and that we had got more last year. I told him 

 that one canoe owned by a man named Kennedy of the same tribe as I 

 am had got 86 seals from the shore (in 1891) last year. There were five 

 other gentlemen besides Mr. Woods sitting in the room. Mr. Woods 

 and one other man spoke Chinook. 



2. 1 have hunted both from shore and from schooner, but have never 

 been in Behring Sea. The seals appear to be as plentiful now as 

 formerly, but are more wild from being hunted so much. 



3. Seals come into Barclay Sound every year, sometimes more than 

 others; the more fish that come in the more seals conie. 



4. I watch if weather is good, and hunt in canoe from shore as far as 

 15 miles, but when the herring are spawning I have got them in as 

 close as 2 miles from Village Island, away inside of Barclay Sound, and 

 hunting from schooners I go from 50 to 60 miles. Hunting from shore 

 I always use a spear, but when on board of schooner the captain finds 

 me a gun and ammunition. A good hunter with a gun would not lose 

 more than 2 seals out of 8 or 12, and I have known my cousin to have 

 taken 17, and lost none. I remember now that Mr. Woods asked me 

 about this, and I told him a good hunter would lose only 2 out of 10 or 

 12. Am a medium hunter with a gun, and out of 10 might lose 2 or 3. 

 A good hunter will never fire when the seal is a long way oft", With a 



spear if I did not miss altogether I would never lose one. One 

 151 of my friends gave a feast, and we had a talk about using spear 



or gun, and we came to the conclusion when sealing from tlie 

 beach to use nothing but the spear, but from schooner to use both 

 S])eav and gun. 



5. In a catch often I would sometimes get 6 males and sometimes 6 

 females. Small seals are mostly young bulls, and sometimes in a day 

 we would get nothing else. I have seen as many as 25 taken in one 

 day. Some years we get a good many grey pups, and other years they 

 are scarce. This j^ear there were very few. 



And I make this solemn declaration conscientiously believing the 

 same to be true, and by virtue of "The Act respecting Extra- Judicial 

 Oaths." 



(Signed) Billy (or Clat KA-Koi), his x mark. 



Witnesses : 

 (Signed) John T. Walburn. 

 A. D. Laing. 



First having been read over and explained by Andrew Laing in the 

 native tongue. 



