762 APPENDIX TO COUNTER-CASE OF GREAT BRITAIN. 



2. Am about 35 years of age, and have been a seal-luinter ever since 

 I was a boy and could handle a spear; have hunted all along the west 

 coast of Vancouver Island and in Barclay Sound, and also in Behring 



Sea. 

 152 3. I have always seen seals, and have killed them every year 



in Barclay Sound. Sometimes they are quite plentiful, and then 

 again there are not so many. Have sealed from the beach and also from 

 schooner. Commence hunting from the beach about Cliristmas, and 

 continue for about six weeks or two months, hunting every day that is 

 fine enough, but from fog and wind a great many days are lost. After 

 hunting from the beach a vessel comes along and takes us and our 

 canoes, and we go away out from the shore, from 50 to 100 miles, and 

 away up north to the coast of Alaska and Behring Sea hunting seals. 



4. I always use the spear in hunting from the beach, and for the last 

 two years have used both gun and spear, hunting from the schooner. 

 I always wait till I get close to a seal before throwing my spear, from 

 4 to 6 fathoms. The spear has two prongs, with barbs on each, and a 

 handle or shaft from 12 to 14 feet in length. Am a pretty good shot Avith 

 a gun, and hunt carefully with it, and would not lose more than two out 

 of ten, and not that many if I hit them. We natives would rather hunt 

 from the beach with a spear, for the gun frightens the seal from coming 

 close into shore, but hunting from the schooner we would just as soon 

 use the gun, and use both, because after shooting the seal most of us 

 use the spear to prevent the seal from sinking as the white man uses 

 the gaff. The young men use the gun more than the old ones, and it is 

 being used more every year amongst the natives. 



5. In sealing from the beach and in the Sound I only got 35 seals this 

 year, and last year I got about 20, but my tribe got more last year than 

 this. I did not seal from a schooner at all that year, but last year I got 

 120 from a schooner. The good hunters always take the spear or gun 

 and go in the bow, and two men are in a canoe. 



0. Hunting from the shore I Avould get about 4 males out of 7 killed, 

 and of the 3 females about 2 would have pups in them. Never get any 

 large bulls down this way, but get plenty up north ; never get any cows 

 with milk till we go north. Along the coast have sometimes got large 

 cows not having pups, and not in milk. We never keep any account 

 of what males or females we get, or even the number of seals we get, 

 but when hunting from the shore we take the skins to a trading post 

 and sell them, and have no reason to keep an account. On the schooner 

 the captain gives us a book, and marks down our take every time we 

 come iu with a load. In my catch this year I got a good many pups, 

 but I cannot say how many. If a seal is asleep on the water I cannot 

 tell a male from a female, but if the seal is awake and his head is above 

 water I can always tell, as their heads and necks are quite different. 



7. I believe the seals are as plentiful now as they were when I first 

 commenced to hunt, but they are driven farther out from shore from 

 being hunted, and are wilder and harder to get on. Some years the 

 seal are very plentiful, but other years there are not so many; if the 

 herring are scarce the seal are scarce, as they follow them in to where 

 the spawning-grounds are to feed. 



8. I have been in Behring Sea and hunted seals there, and I think I 

 killed more males than females, and of the cows I killed many did not 

 have milk, and were not in pup. In 1891 1 killed sixty seals in Behring 

 Sea. I went there in the " W. P. Sayward," and was only there from 

 three weeks to a month. 



