764 APPENDIX TO COUNTER-CASE OF GREAT BRITAIN. 



District of Nauaimo, on Vancouver Island, and am 45 years of age or 

 tbereabouts. 



2. Am a seal hunter, and liave been one ever since I was a little 

 boy; have hunted on the west coast of Vancouver Island, in Barcliiy 

 Sound, and all along the coast of Alaska and into the Behring Sea. 



3. Seals always come into Barclay Sound — sometimes very many, 

 sometimes not so many; years herring are plentiful the seals are very 

 plentiful; have sealed from the beach in canoe, and also in canoe from 

 schooner; commence sealing from the beach about Christmas time, 

 and continue till we go out in the schooners about six weeks or two 

 months, depending on the time the vessels come after us. We of the 

 Secharts have no schooner of our own, but always go in a King George 

 (English) schooner. Boston (United States) schooners have come after 

 us, but we would never go with them. In hunting from the beach we 

 go all the way out from 3 to 15 miles according to the weather and 

 where the seals are. In schooners we go from 50 to 100 miles off the 

 coast. 



4. Never use a gun unless I am on board a schooner, where I use 

 both gun and spear, but never use the gun where I can get close on 

 them with a spear. I am not a good gun-shot, but am very good with 

 a spear, and would not miss one in ten that I throw at. The old men 

 amongst the Indians do not use the gun much, but the young Indians 

 are using them more each year. The gun has frightened the seals 

 away off from shore, and they are very wild. We see as many as ever, 

 but they are much harder to get at. 



5. I got this year 100 sealing from thebeach and 80 from the schooner. 

 I got more this year than last; some of our tribe get many more than 

 others, for some are not as good hunters, and do not work so hard as 

 others. 



6. Our tribe manned eighteen canoes, and with the Opechessit tribe 

 we manned twenty-live canoes, for we generally hunt together and live 

 close together. I don't know how many our tribe got from the beach, 

 but on the schooner "Mischief" we had nine canoes this year, and we 

 got 700 seals along the coast as far as Kadiak, and were away three 

 months. We could only hunt about twelve days a month on account 

 of the bad weather. One of our canoes was lost, and was picked up 

 and brought back by the " Tupj)er;" Shewish and Watcomna were the 

 ones lost in it. 



7. Along the coast and in the, Sound I have always got more males 

 than females, but others I have known have got more females than 

 males; some years there maybe more cows than others. The pups 

 are mostly bulls; I got quite a few pups this year. I did not get any 

 old cows this year that did not have pups in them, but have seen plenty. 

 Did not get any large bulls in the Sound or off the island this year, but 

 off Queen Charlotte's Island I got ten of the largest bulls. The grey 

 pups are always bulls, and hunting from the beach I got quite a few 

 this year. 



8. I have been twice in Behriug Sea — in the schooner "Adele" in 

 1889 or 1890, and I got many more males than females, and they were 

 all half-grown or large bulls, and all the cows I got had milk in them 

 but no pups. 



9. What I have here said has been read over and explained to me in 

 my own language — the Chinook — by Andrew Laing here present, and 

 I understand it and the same is true, and I have received no money or 

 other consideration for making this declaration, nor have I been prom- 

 ised anything. 



