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that seals never came iuto the Sound, for I have been twenty-five years 

 on this coast, and have always seen the seals come into the Sound 

 every year. A young- man was taking down what I said, and when I 

 had got through I was asked to touch the pen and hold up my hand. 



What I have here told is the truth, and nothing has been given me 

 as consideration for telling this, and what has been written down has 

 been read over to me and explained, and is all true. 



And I make this solemn declaration conscientiously believing the 

 same to be true, and by virtue of " The Act respecting Extra- Judicial 

 Oaths." 



(Signed) John Margotich, his x mark. 



Witnesses: 

 (Signed) A. D. Laing. 



John T. Walburn. 



Declared before me at the village of Alberni, on the west coast of 

 "Vancouver Island, in the Province of British Columbia, this 7th day 

 of November, in the year of Our Lord 1892. 



(Signed) A. P. Sherwood, 



A Commissioner of Police for Canada. 



Declarations of Joseph^ Jacic, and Johnny Hammond. 



Dominion of Canada, 



Province of British Columbia, City of Victoria, 



I, Joseph, declare that I am the Chief of the Clayoquot Indians. 



I have been out hunting on schooners, and have also hunted from the 

 shore. Eight years ago I went out in a Seattle schooner, and worked 

 for that firm four years. I was not out again till this year. I was on 

 the schooner " Triumph " this year. I used both a shot-gun and a 

 spear, and like them equally well; the other Indians say that too. We 

 do not lose any seals that we shoot; if very close we use the spear, if 

 not, we use the gun. We get more this way, for if we see two sleep- 

 ing can si)ear one without waking the other, and then can shoot the 

 other. If there is only one we shoot it. We get more man seals always ; 

 we used to go out in canoes from the shore, two men in a canoe ; some- 

 times we w^ould get 10, sometimes 20, sometimes fewer; if the weather 

 is fine we get a great many, sometimes as many as 40. We go 

 155 out hunting first a little after New Years; we hunt about five 

 months in this way. We find cod, salmon, and squid in their 

 stomachs. We saw plenty of seals this year, but we went out too late. 

 The seals will never be all killed by hunting them; no matter how many 

 seals we kill there will be plenty left. 



I, Jack, a Clayoquot Indian, say that I have heard what Joseph 

 said, and it is what I think too. I have been hunting fifteen years on 

 schooners. I was on the " Triumph " this year. 



I, Johnny Hammond, a Clayoquot Indian, say that I have been hunt- 

 ing sixteen years. I heard of no "Boston" (United States) steamer at 

 Clayoquot this year. I am out most as a steerer, for when a man is 

 found to lose seals he is made a steerer. 



(Signed) Joseph, his x mark. 



Jack, ditto. 



Witness : 

 (Signed) E. Maynard. 



Johnny Hammond, ditto. 



