786 APPENDIX TO COUNTER-CASE OF GREAT BRITAIN. 



Declaration of Ernest L. Lorenz. 



Dominion of Canada, 



Province of British Columbia., City of Victoria^ 



I, Ernest L. Loreuz, of the city of Victoria, iu the Province of British 

 Columbia, do solemnly declare as follows: 



1. That I have been three years out sealing as master and mate. 



2. I knew Henry Brown. He was out with me in the "Mascotte" 

 last year as a seaman. I had an Indian crew, and he was never out 

 sealing- at all. He was out this year as an able seaman on the " May 

 Belle," a schooner with an Indian crew. He got back from his cruize 

 on the '' May Belle " about the middle of April. He is the sort of man 

 we call a '' sea lawyer;" he is not a man that is competent to form an 

 intelligent opinion on any matter, he is, I consider, light-headed. He 

 was with me four months, and I had plenty of chance of knowing what 

 kind of man he was. He was a good sailor, but not of much use in 

 other ways. He knew nothing of sealing, and could not sign his name, 

 I believe. Last year nor this year he was not farther north than the 

 north end of Vancouver Island on either the " May Belle" or the "Mas- 

 cotte." I remember now that he was out four or five times in a boat 

 with the mate, but had little chance of seeing anything of seals. I do 

 not bear him any ill-will, and have told only what I know of him from 



having been with him. 

 168 And I make this solemn declaration conscientiously believing 



the same to be true, and by virtue of "The Act respecting Extra- 

 judicial Oaths." 



(Signed) Ernest Lorenz. 



Subscribed and declared by the said Ernest L. Lorenz before me, a 

 Notary Public duly commissioned, and residing and practising at the 

 city of Victoria, in the Province of British Columbia, this 2J:th day of 

 October, A. d. 1892. 



[SEAL.] (Signed) Arthur L. Belyea, 



A Notary Public in and for the Province of British Columbia. 



Declaration of Richard Hall. 



Dominion of Canada, 



Province of British Columbia, City of Victoria, 



I, Eichard Hall, of the city of Victoria, in the Province of British 

 Columbia, ship-owner, do solemnly declare as follows: 



1. I am the managing agent of the owner of the sealing-schooner 

 " Mascotte." 



2. I know Henry Brown, who was engaged either by me or the cap- 

 tain to act as an able seaman on that schooner. He is a sailor-man of 

 very ordinary intelligence, not being able to sign his own name. 



3. I never heard of him going out in any other capacity than as a 

 sailor; he was not even a boat-steerer or puller. 



4. He is not a man whom I consider competent to form an intelligent 

 opinion on any subject. 



5. I act as agent for several sealing-schooners, and would not think 

 of engaging him, either as a hunter or boat-puller. 



And I make this solemn declaration conscientiously believing the 

 same to be true, and by virtue of "The Act respecting Extra- Judicial 

 Oaths." 



(Signed) Eichard Hall. 



