DISCUSSION ON TWO PRECEDING PAPERS 29 



than that prescribed by the Convention. I desire to include this article so as to complete 

 the paper on Subdivision. 



I would like to draw the attention of the members to the title of the paper, viz. : "Ap- 

 plication of Subdivision Rules." I am rather disappointed that we have not heard from 

 more of the shipowners and marine superintendents. I thought that some of the exam- 

 ples I took would have brought about some discussion with regard to the coastwise ships 

 that are running now. Perhaps it is a delicate subject with the principals and also with 

 some of the superintendents, but I thought we would have heard something from the marine 

 superintendents as regards the application of the International Rules to coastwise trade. 



I thank Admiral Capps for his kind remarks about the paper, and I think we all 

 ought to feel proud of the results of the International Conference as regards Construction, 

 the division of which Admiral Capps was chairman. The proceedings of the division of the 

 Convention which he so carefully and successfully guided have resulted in the splendid rec- 

 ommendations for more safety of life at sea. 



Mr. Theodore Lucas asked for an explanation regarding the table on page 16. I drew 

 attention in the paper to the fact that the Convention required the spacing of watertight 

 bulkheads on "mixed cargo and passenger" vessels, 571 feet in length and above; and, in 

 "passenger vessels," 489 feet in length and above. Naturally, for the smaller vessels the 

 factor was increased. Steamers are nearly all classed in some classification society; such 

 society would require that a vessel must have a collision bulkhead, a bulkhead at each end of 

 machinery space, and an aft peak bulkhead. With such an arrangement of bulkheads there 

 is a length of ship where the vessel would float with any one compartment filled. We there- 

 fore obtain the factors as in column A on page 16, and no steamer would be built without 

 bulkheads. 



The Chairman : — I would say further, in regard to the suggestion of Admiral Capps 

 as to the publication of the text of the Convention — that it be published with our Transac- 

 tions — that that matter may also be taken up by the Council. 



I do not know that it will interest you at all, but I happened to be in London at the time 

 of the opening of this Conference, and no matter how early I got down to breakfast at the 

 hotel I always found Admiral Capps there; and no matter how late at night I returned to 

 the hotel, I found Admiral Capps busy with a committee, or occupied in some other work 

 in connection with the Conference, so it was apparent that he was working nearly twenty 

 hours out of the twenty-four. We are to be congratulated that we had men like Admiral 

 Capps doing such important work at the Conference in London. 



If there is no further discussion, I wish to tender to Mr. Chamberlain, an efficient mem- 

 ber of the delegation sent from the United States to London, your thanks for his paper, 

 and also to extend our thanks to Mr. Donald for the most excellent paper which he has pre- 

 sented to us. 



We will now have the paper entitled "Safety of Life from Fire at Sea," which will be 

 presented by Mr. W. O. Teague. 



Mr. Teague presented the paper. 



