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47. Q. If such a thing had been done or attempted it would be sure to be known 
among sealers?—A. Yes; it would be impossible to keep it a secret. 
48. Q. Is it your opinion that our ship-owners and masters have done everything 
they could possibly do to discourage anything of that kind?—A. Yes; everything. 
49, Q. What has been the general distance you have sealed—the distance from the 
seal islands?—A. From 100 to 140 miles. I was within 80 miles of them last year; 
that was the nearest I was to them. ; 
50. Q. Of course your men on board would, if they had ever been engaged in such 
raiding of the islands, certainly have told their fellows?—A. Yes, it would soon have 
become known. ; 
51. Q. It is well known to all sealers that certain schooners have raided those 
islands?—A. Yes, during 1889 and 1890. 
51*. Q. Do you remember what their names are? 
‘<Mollie Adams,” ‘George R. White,” and others. 
52. Q. Do you remember any other schooner raiding the islands?—A. Yes; the 
German schooner ‘ Adele.” 
53. Q. It was well known that it was a German vessel?—A. Oh, yes. 
54. Q. Those American vessels that raided the Pribyloff Islands recruited their 
erews—where?—A. | think the ‘‘ Mollie Adams” recruited her crew at Gloucester. 
55. Q. In the United States?—A. Yes; she fitted up in Port Townsend, Washington. 
56. Q. Did you ever hear of any American vessels fitting out at Sand Point to raid 
the islands?—A. I do not remember it. 
57. Q. Were you ordered out of Behring’s Sea last year?—A. Yes. 
58. Q. By whom?—A. The British steamer ‘‘ Porpoise.” 
59. Q. On being ordered out of the Sea, you immediately complied?—A. Yes; I 
came right away. 
60. Q. Did you lower your boats afterwards?—A. I did not. I came right out of 
the Sea. 
61. Q. What month was that?—A. 9th August. 
62. Q. Had you not been ordered out, were you in good hunting ground?—A. Oh, 
yes. 
” 63. Q. Were the seals plentiful at the time you were warned; that is, as plentiful 
as you had previously seen them?—A. Yes; just as thick as ever. 
64. Q. What was your catch up to the time you were warned out?—A. 2,434 in 
Behring’s Sea. 
65. Q. What was your coast catch?—A. 1,008 on the coast, and 2,434 in the Sea. 
66. Q. Had you been unmolested for another thirty days your chances were 
191 good for a large catch?—A. Yes; our chances were good for quite doubling 
our catch. 
67. Q. Your principal ground for sealing you found—where?—A. About 100 miles 
westward of the Islands of St. George and St. Panl. I took 1,000 in four days there. 
68. Q. During that time, when you were getting seals so quickly, was your per- 
centage of loss greater there than on the coast?—A. No; they were very quiet. 
69. Q. You have stated that, from your personal observation, you think the seals 
were as plentiful last year as you have ever seen them in Behring’s Sea?—A. Yes; 
much more so than I ever saw them before. 
70. Q. More so at a distance of 100 to 130 miles from the nearest seal island ?— 
A. Yes. 
71. Q. What course would that lie from the Pribyloff Islands?—A. About west. 
72. Q. At the time you were sealing there were there any other Canadian schoon- 
ers in your company ?—A. Yes; the ‘‘Annie C. Moore,” the ‘ Carmelite,” and the 
“Ariel.” They had all an average catch. 
73. Q. Have you ever heard of the McLeans raiding Copper Islands?—A. Yes. 
74. Q. Do you believe they did actually raid them?—A. Yes. 
75. Q. Did you hear the story of their going, with three boats of the ‘‘ Webster ” 
and ‘*City of San Diego” in a crowd, landing at a passage between the rocks and 
the mainland of the island, and standing there, where the water was swift, and 
shooting the seals as they passed through?—A. Yes; but they lost a great many. 
The captain of the ‘‘San Diego” said that they didn’t get one-tenth of what they 
shot. 
76. Q. It is the prevailing opinion among the sealers that the “J. Hamilton 
Lewis” was seized for landing on the islands?—A. Yes; the Russians had been 
watching her. She was seized for actually raiding the islands. 
77. Q. You didn’t go to the Copper Island side at all?—A. I did not. 
78. Q. In leaving Behring’s Sea, where did you come out through?—A. Through 
the Four Mountain Pass. 
79. Q. After you had been warned out, did you speak any other cutter?—A. I did: 
not. 
80. Q. Did you see any seals from the time you were warned out till the time you. 
came through the pass?—A. They were just as thick as ever within 40 miles of the: 
A. Yes; the American schooner 
