268 FOURTH SESSION OF FRIDAY AFTERNOON, NOVEMBER 18, 1921. 



Junior to Member (3). 



Theodore G. Grier, Hull Scientific Draughtsman, Wm. Cramp & Sons Ship and En- 

 gine Building Co., Philadelphia, Pa. P. O. address, 432 Trenton Avenue, Camden, N. J. 



Kenneth W. Heinrich, Sales Engineer, AuxiHary Machinery, Bethlehem Shipbuilding 

 Corporation. P. O. address, 1215 Wood Street, Bethlehem, Pa. 



J. Herbert Todd, Superintendent, Clinton Dry Dock Co. P. O. address, 46 Rutland 

 Road, Brooklyn, N. Y. 



The Chairman : — Gentlemen, you have heard these names, which have been read, to- 

 gether with a recommendation of the Chair for their election to the various grades as read. 



Mr. Howard C. Higgins^ Member: — I move that the recommendation of the Council 

 be adopted. 



The Chairman : — This motion, if carried, will constitute the election for membership 

 of these applicants in the various grades, as read by the Acting Secretary. 



The motion was duly seconded, put to vote and carried. 



The Chairman : — ^The next item of business, referring to the main order, will be the 

 presentation of Paper No. 10, "Design and Construction of Passenger Steamers," by Mr. E. 

 H. Rigg, a Member of Council. 



Mr. Rigg : — I need hardly say, when I prepared this paper, that I had not the faintest 

 indication of the momentous proposals that the world would be considering this week. It is 

 worthy of note that, while we have the beginnings of a passenger fleet, we are still not repre- 

 sented in first-class liners of the Mauretania and Aquitania type, with a single possible excep- 

 tion, the Leviathan, which some of us hope to visit tomorrow, but she is unfortunately not 

 in running condition. It occurs to me that the limitation of naval armaments proposals have 

 opened up a vista of several first-class large 30-knot liners. The question of what to do with 

 our battle cruisers is a very interesting one, and I think there is a great deal to be said, if we 

 are permitted to say it, in favor of considering the conversion of these vessels into real At- 

 lantic liners of 30-knot speed all the way over. I have thought the matter over in the past 

 day or two, and while I am well aware that there would be many technical difficulties in the 

 way, yet I think if the American traveling public were given the opportunity of patronizing 

 such ships as these vessels can be made to be, we will have a real place in the North Atlantic 

 passenger-carrying trade. 



Battle cruisers are obviously built on speed lines ; the Mauretania, if built on such lines, 

 would make 30 knots for the power with which she now gets 26; this, however, would be at 

 a materially lower displacement and, by the time passenger comfort had been fully consid- 

 ered, would not be easy in a ship of the Mauretania's length without reducing the passenger- 

 carrying capacity to a serious extent. The battle cruisers above referred to, being about 100 

 feet longer, will naturally work out to better advantage as regards speed and comfort. 



Mr. Rigg then abstracted the paper and at its conclusion said : "I may add that since 

 writing the paper, the American Legion and the Southern Cross have already made records 

 between New York and South America. The Shipping Board and the operators, the Munson 

 Steamship Line, are to be congratulated, and I will leave it for them to say as to whether 

 the builders should share in. the congratulations." 



