212 DISCUSSION ON TWO PRECEDING PAPERS. 
Mr. Monteagle’s third criticism in regard to the valve gear is merely a matter 
of opinion. ‘The valves would be all of the piston type, would not be heavy and 
the valve gear, of which there would only be two sets, if made as heavy as the 
weight of the four sets, would, in my opinion, be better insured against possible 
breakdown. 
Mr. Lovekin’s address was not in any sense a discussion of my paper. His 
suggestion that Professor Stumpf’s unidirectional flow engine might take the place 
of the reciprocating engine I suggested is the only connection that his remarks have 
with my paper. I do not think Professor Stumpf would like to have his type of 
engine helped out by a turbine as his claim is that the engine he is developing is in 
itself the old reciprocating engine and the turbine combined—in fact better than 
any combination of the two. I think Mr. Lovekin would find some difficulty in 
getting the steam out of the unidirectional flow cylinder into the receiver of the 
turbines, in fact it must have a pretty big stepdown to get out at all and if it doesn’t 
get out quickly the engine stops. 
In regard to what Sir W. H. White said in his reference to my paper, I am 
pleased that he brought out what had been done several years ago by Sir Charles 
Parsons. I did not claim any originality for what I presented in my paper, in fact 
I stated in closing that all I had brought before the Society had of course been con- 
sidered by the able engineers who have designed the important installations of com- 
bined reciprocating and turbine engines, although I do not remember the particular 
work referred to by Sir W. H. White. I am sure he will understand that out on 
the Pacific Coast we are not in so close touch with everything that goes on in the 
great shipbuilding centers as we should be and consequently sometimes do work 
that we are foolish enough to consider original when it has been done before else- 
where. 
I am disappointed that the economical point in the expansion curve at which 
to turn over the steam from the reciprocating engine to the turbine was not discussed. 
THE PRESIDENT:—I congratulate the Society on having had presented to it 
papers which have produced such interesting discussion, but time is pressing and 
we must, with the thanks of the Society to the authors of these papers, proceed 
to further business. ‘The council must have a meeting to consider further appli- 
cations for membership. This meeting will adjourn until 2.30 o'clock. The 
Council will kindly assemble as quickly at possilbe as the front of the room. 
The meeting then took a recess. 
