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Mr. Macdonald. Let Liiii answer it as he sees proper. This is a 

 sweeping- question. 1 should ol^jcct to it if I was deleuding him in court. 



Mr. Jeffries. He can answei' it as lie pleases. 



A. lu all cases of conflict between these men and m;^elf they were 

 wronj; 



Q. And you were right; that follows. Did you have any trouble 

 with Mr. Morgan ?— A. No, sir. 



Q. Do you know how long Mr. Webster has been employed by the 

 company on this island?— A. J think he has been there pretty nearly 

 twenty vears. 



Q. JHave you ever heard of his having any trouble with any other 

 Government agent before you ?~A. If there is one he has not had trouble 

 witli I do not know it. 



Q. You swear that he had trouble with all of them ?— A. I did not 

 make that assertion. 



Q. You stated that if there was one there he did not have trouble 

 with you did not know it. So far as you know he did have trouble I— 

 A. Yes, sir. 



Q. Who did he have trouble with ?— A. He had trouble with Mr. Fow- 

 hr. 



Q. That was one. — A. And a man named Marston. 



Q. That is t^o. Who else ?— A. And myself. 



Q. That is three.— A. That is all I know. 



Q. Do you know how many Government agents have been there in 

 the past nineteen or twenty years I — A. I do not know, 



Q. Has there been a dozen f — A. I do not know how many years it 

 is, nor how many have been on the island. 



Q. Do not you know there has been more than a dozen on that island 

 in the past seventeen or eighteen years'? — A. I know also that Mr. 

 Webster has never wintered all the time on the island. 



Q. I am not talking about that, sir. Do not you know that there have 

 been more than a dozen Government agents on St. Paul Island during 

 Webster's administration ? — A. I believe there has been. 



Q. And of that dozen there are three that have had difficulty with 

 Webster. Now, what trouble did Fowler have with Webster ? — A. I do 

 not know. ^ 



Q, How do you know, then, there was any difficulty I^A. I know it 

 fiom some records on the books. 



Q. What do the records show ?— A. That there was a difficulty about 

 issuing sugar by Mr. Webster. 



Q. You say the records show that ? — A. Yes, sir. 



Q. Wliose fault was it !— A. That is for somebody else to say. 



Q. You do not know 1 — A. No, sir. 



Q. What was the trouble with Mr. Marston ?— A. I do not know 

 about that. 



Q. How do you know that there was trouble ? Who told you?— A. 

 Mr. Webster. 



Q. He told you he had trouble with Mr. Marston ?— A. Y"es, sir. 



Q. Did he tell you who was in the right or wrong?— I. I do not 

 know. 



Q. You do not know but what Webster was right *? — A. I do not. 



Q. That is all yon know about that? Now. we will commence with 

 your trouble. How did your trouble begin with W^ebster ? — A. I would 

 not let him use me as a tool; because 1 would not keep the priest out 

 of the pups and coal to gratify him. 



