222 FUR-SEAL FISHERIES OF ALASKA. 



Q. Which agent was that? — A. Mr. Tiugle. He swore him in as an 

 officer of the (loverument while he was a physician of the company on 

 the ishiud of St, George instead of making the man who was a])pointe(l 

 by the Secretary of the Treasiny, and sent there to do his duty as a 

 Government agent, do his duty. 



Q. Who was that man ? — A. Manchester. 



Q. He had been appointed by the Secretary of the Treasury ? — A. 

 Yes, sir, 



Q. And he has put in a bill for pay? — A. Yes, sir; a physician of 

 the company, Dr. Noyes, has. 



Q. For performing Manchester's duties ? — A. Y"es, sir. 



Q. Manch(^ster has been paid by the Government? — A. Yes, sir; of 

 course he draws his pay as a regular (»ffieer. The law provides for four 

 and Mr. Tingle made a fifth officer without authority of law. 



By Mr. Macdonald : 



Q. What does Mr. Noyes chiim pay for? For performing what du- 

 ties ? — A. For being tliere during the winter time. 



Q. He is both physician and agent? — A. Yes; he is a physician of 

 the company. 



Q. Does he claim pay for that ? — A; He is employed by the company 

 and paid by them. 



Q. What actual service does heclaimpay for from the Government? — 

 A. For acting as special agent of the Treasury on St. George Island, 

 under authority of another agent, which was given him. 



Q. He is a deputy of Tingle? — A. Yes, sir. 



Cross-examination by Mr. Jeffries : 



Q. You were s])eaking of one revenue cutter policing these waters. I 

 wouhl ask you whether there would not be some difficulty in disposing 

 of the captured crews ? — A. Y^es, sir. 



Q. Wliat would you suggest to remedy that? — A. I know when we 

 captured several in 1<SS5 it was very embarrassing to take charge of the 

 men. and there would have to be a shi[) of some kind stationed at Oon- 

 alaska or a prison to put them in outside of the revenue-cutter. I spoke 

 of one revenue-cutter as being sufficient protection to seal islands if she 

 done her duty. 



Mr. Macdonald. The Government should provide a place for keeping 

 the prisoners ? 



The Witness. Y^es ; at Oonalaska, to take charge of the men. Oon- 

 alaska is the only place where the ship or prison could conveniently be. 



Q. I would like to have you, in this connection, while it is in your 

 mind, state specifically what you think the Government ought to do in 

 addition to what is now being done to suitably protect the seal fisheries. — 

 A. Outside of a revenue-cutter iii these waters, whose duty it should be 

 to protect the islands, there should be a person of some kind at Oona- 

 laska to take charge of the crews that tlie revenue cutter might seize, 

 and I suggest that it be a i)rison, because it would be something to 

 punish them. They would not like to go back again wben they were 

 locked up in a prison. 



The Chairman, Let me suggest. Several witnesses who have been 

 examined before have suggested and urged the policy of requiring all 

 vessels who enter Bering Sea to touch at Oonalaska and take there from 

 a Government official, a customs officer, a permit to enter the sea, 

 stating for what purpose they are going tliere, and then require them 

 to report before coming out. Would you think that a wise policy ? You 

 may just go on, however, without regard to that and finish your state- 



