260 THE REV. H. J. R. MARSTON, M.A., ON 
indications of something of the same kind to be found even there ; 
because there, there is neither Gentile nor Jew; there is neither 
male nor female, but all are one ; and Supreme Reason, the highest 
reason of our nature, should teach us to trample under foot even 
the natural desires of man for the sake of the Kingdom of the Lord. 
Colonel ALvEes.—Mr. Chairman, unfortunately I was not able to 
be here at the beginning of the lecture, so I do not know if 
Mr. Marston gave a definition of the word “ Education.” Well, 
education is not book-learning. Book-learning may be necessary, 
or at any rate, very useful for education, but I have heard of great 
warriors and great statesmen and kings who ruled ably and wisely, 
who could not read or write, and who made their mark. We have 
an illustration of that in pricking the roll where the king or queen 
takes a bodkin and puts a prick against the name of one or two 
who have been read out, and who are those elected for sheriff. It 
dates from the time when great kings and other people could not 
read or write. But they were not uneducated men ; they could set 
the battle in array, and they could make wise laws and show 
themselves men. Book-learning is useful because it helps a man to 
do without his fellows; but I have found myself that what I have 
learned through contact with my fellows is of more use to me than 
what I read from printed matter in books. (Hear, hear.) 
Mr. Coxhead alluded to cobblers, and I remember a little boot- 
maker more than a score of years ago who could hardly read or 
write. He was a sharp, intelligent man. He could make a pair of 
boots from start to finish, and he could make the last on which 
those boots were made, but he could hardly read or write, and his 
complaint against the men who worked under him was this: that 
they took no interest except in doing some little bit of a pair of 
boots. They had no pride in doing their work; all they wanted 
was to receive their pay. I have no doubt they could read and 
write. We know journeymen bootmakers and journeymen tailors 
are great politicians. One of their number is paid by them to read 
the newspaper for an hour, and they discuss politics over their 
work; but Iam not aware that they are highly educated men or 
great statesmen. 
Now we have to go to the Bible. Do we not find in the book of 
Daniel mention of the element of gold, silver, or copper 4 
The CuArrMAN.-—It does not apply to those degrees. 
