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vacancy. in Ee sees of ORGS, Durham, or ‘Winchester. {nstead, 
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it would be oe a 
iii Peel, and anticipate Queen Anni 
t until a vacancy should occur in the Heer atop: 
caeten there would 
ey to the mainte enanice of Hey Se ae 
ae eae both in locality and ea i 
t, he Oy confident, have peaseds had Lord 
Home-' ie oa Fae aS ‘amenities 
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nade com- 
* The poesia of the si 
fein inconyenient. 
Ponte the toa and pole ao te 
tha $ at present. Another ion was, that the 
Whole patronage was exclusively seated insti bishop. the act 
nue altogether a most unconstitutional measure; but pasrely 
t of the present bishops. He hoped, 
therefore, that their Lordships would listen to the wish of rene 
Church, and preserve to the principality of Wales its bishoprics. 
The Duke of WELLINGTON 
connected wae the origin and Peng chs the act. | BET 
founded on Comm 
Moe itch had been appointed Sn ihe ea inning of 183: eS to 
Paee into Me best means of increasing the utility o! the 
iS urch. The c ion , composed of the Lord Chae the 
tris of the Church, and many eminent statesmen, had 
tTecommended the union of the sees of Sa pe beep and 
of Be Asaph and Bangor, and the creatioi 
e. The measure wo tless be attended with 
ad miences, but these weis meta than elaabeel by its 
vantages 5 and it had ncn accepted by the public as a proof of 
with uct the measure originated to 
Tam the imperfections aad increase the utility of the Church. 
tim Moved that the bill before their Lordships be read a second 
me that day six months. 
iy The Bishop of Bancor supported the bill, He was as anxious 
= any man could be for the unbens) t of a Bishop for Man- 
ester, but he did not thin 
ancient diocese to apes “that jobject: —The aa 
we ld a done by the union of the we 0 sees 5 and He did not 
number ofbenefices, the united dive ould be such as to 
Sia perenon to vote 
Wises the second reading of the bill. ve The Bis! of SAuis- 
Manel ester as an ample source from which 
the eae of the new bishopric could be derived, tion’ 
the destruction of any existing bishopric.—The Bishop of L 
Don admitted that the source Ron whence the funds erould: a 
derived was obvious ; but the difficulty was the creation of a 
New bishop, who would have a seat in their Lordships? House. 
To the suggestion that the new Bishop should 
a seat in the House as lo: 
and that as soon as one Ss) 
sufficient funds for 
me ‘of his 
e to deprive him ae his baronial oe 
motion.—The Bishop of Exrrer, not wishing to 
rae pone ee jeu ofa oe of Manchester until after 
deaths of the present Prelates of a 
Would ae Hs Hee Seared reading of the bin 
T. rates S objected that the overflowings of V 
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should be taken to supply the spiritual wants of ndeitiy Man- 
preter. He also supported the bill before the House.—phe 
Bill, ‘op of Lincoun and the Marquis of eacasecay: opposed the 
mR which was tates ted by Earl Ep ILLIAM, Lord Lyrriy. 
ne and fe Bishop of Norwicu.—' he pYeecenOn of the 
Op of Exrrer, “farl Powis. withdrew his bill for the present 
hat the eae of WELLINGTON then infarited! Lal Powis, 
m ‘case he brought forward this bill again, it woul 
y for ane to. sh the Royal assent to its introduction, 
a oA ued ordersin Council sor the carrying out of 
\ct authorizing the union of these see 
ead: Ea note SHDN ENS in eply to pe ‘Marquis of 
Valbane, said that he hoped to be able to introduce a 
fourepl f th 
of place the de eeoee ministers 0! ne 
The tathbogie, and itnus the Jaw 
th ‘arquis of Lon 
trator’ Mr. O'Connell, Lord Ffrench, and other Irish mais. 
The pyat been suspended for taking part in a Repeal agitation ? 
true; ae © of Weniineron answered that he believed it 
Ut he had no official information on the subject. 
y HOUSE OF COMMONS 
had ree HAM, in answer to Sir A. L. Hay, said he 
eral vee ae the ord High Commissioner the answer of ae 
letter, Assembly of the Church of Scotland to her Mi 
tee as tis with an intimation that 93 endowed 
8, along with a Sept eae number of guoad sacra 
» had seceded fro ssembly. 
red to act up to their recorded declarations, and would 
by their observation of the proceedings of the General 
ae ee 's to what remedial measures they would propose to 
The siature, in order to relieve the difficulties of the church. 
Mr, Wo Journed debate on the Canada Corn Bill wasresumed by 
.°DEHOUSE, Who expressed his regret that he should now 
speak and Vote against. nae with whom he had 
Teneway Orn for the last t 25 years. © foresa aw that on the 
cae mus 
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the Cony jesislation. “He ¢ ted perpetual meddling with 
discourage aH guestion, cites agua have nOiisecetacs than to 
Some Rate ritish culture, and thus to leave this country ey 
Course, lat suerte in an awkward position, He should, 
meamerican corn, and at the same 
the boon lich: the Bill proposed to grant to 
mente one nor he should vote for the resolutions of the 
r. Trorrer, Mr. S. O’Brien, Lord §, Sanpon, 
a on moe CumminG Bruck, spoke in 
ArieER, Mr. HAWES, Mr, Bucs, 
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rR. Penn said the. immediate question before the ‘House. was 
rae ae merits of the Government. measure, which might be fully 
discussed hereafter, but whether or not the ee should adopt 
the unprecedented course of addressing the Cro 
Royal assent to an act o: olonial legisla’ anes The Canadian 
es and he hoped that vthe Base of battens would not eaepy 
the unusual course of a f e interposition 
Mr. Baring had Aa that “Ministers had not cone this 
measure iene hey altered the Corn-law. it that time the 
PONE had given the subject an atcntive eousideration— 
proof of eed he read extracts from noe paste '$ speeches 
aetna a ion. ‘he Canadians had no right, in pessine 
their ace “tae anticipate that a formidable opposition would bi 
raised by the members of the late sole against it. He 
did ngt deny the palit! saan of the use of Commons to 
refuse assent to tl resolutions, au thus to defeat the 
whole plan. But ie asked ieee to consider such a step care- 
fully. The speeches which had been made in the course of the 
debate had clearly shown that Ministers were not abandoning 
the principle of a sliding-scale, nor trifling with the agricultural 
interest; the measure was no ‘diminution of the protection now 
njoyed, No doubt, American po brought through Canada 
Sone be subject to a fixed duty; but there was no alternative, 
r there was no system of averages in Canada by which to levy 
ie in a different manner, It coulis not ust panied that this 
measure would be a boon £9. ae the faith and honour of 
the te Government w aa zed to do. what they could 
to carry it. The cost of supp 
restoring peace to the province coult 
than 3,500,0002.; the hazardous experiment of uniting the 
provinces had been tried; and under the irr: itating circumstances 
of our then int pwn rse with the United States it was of the 
i © to conciliate the Ganeaiaitss without whose 
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posing this measure, which was ardently 
desired by the Canadians, and was not calculated to affect home 
agriculture, either directly by large importations, or by smug- 
gling, which, under the c ciccantstangssy could not reasonably be 
Fpbpgsed to be carried on ara whatever. Let the 
then, recollect Freanccrtes invelved; the H 
the Government in pro} 
ouse of 
Assembly, why permit them to legislate? The spiri 
actuated the amendment was similar to ee which had proposed 
inction of the Jamaica Legislature; he could not deny 
their power to reject the measure, but let them beware of the 
consequences. 
Lord J. Russe1n rebuked Sir R. Peel for calling Canada 
the weakest point of empire, and for asserting that 
the adoption of the amendment would be mortification 
th rown. It might be a mortification to the Minister, 
at was a perfectly pea ae resolution to ado 
He referred to Poa Stanl declaration that “any man of 
sense woud prefer, a fixed es to a sliding scale,’ and asked 
why was not New Brunswick included? and why Canada was 
Heated ¢ a an English county. He considered the meaning of 
the resolutions to be to extend mengulyane restriction through 
the whole colonial empire. For three years he wut seen nothing 
from the Government but. 
and there really seemed such a shuffling froin: one principle to 
another that he could not wonder at the wa 
which had of late been Gare ff the Bucking! 
other county meeti ngs. The Right Hon. Baronet said last year, 
yrand Paenan schem: ne aol wis measure 
ans of bringing in a considerable quantity of 
foreign cattle, and by these means of vengielie nee price of meat 
in the English market. In the same speech he said that really 
there vot sae be, by his bill, any very considerable introduc- 
tion of foreign cattle—that on "that ground there was no cause 
for epevenens bione-that no one need think about it. Such were 
the contradictions made in course of a single speech upon a 
single measure. In the aeuni on the bu geet talking about 
the Income-tax, the Vice-President of the Board of Trade oak 
v e€ SO. lowered the price of living, that with moder: 
Siienee any man may easily pay his Income-tax ont of erat 
reduction, such has been the effect of our measure!” at 
eneyerer for the sey, Presently sBerS. was a debate on the Corn 
mmending the se to vote ascot the 
repeai of those a he then tolda very different story. Then 
it was that—‘ the reduction in the price of the ay commo- 
dities had been caused by the distress of the TADS UES, who 
Het See i produce, and who therefore had ceased to con- 
hen we heard euch eae ue what w GAGES was it that 
Bee apprehensions should Could anything, he 
asked, more completely show "that these Ministers—that these 
Conservative Ministers—were acting in the sunt of mere inno- 
vation—that they were changing f Seeheteta ake—introducing 
alterations without the slightest prospect of benefit to the people 
of England, to the people of Canada, or to any mortal soul? ‘We 
e the men for change,’ they cried, ‘and we care not what its 
comer uenees may be,’—The House then divided, when there 
were ;—For ee fee committee, 344; for the amendment, 156 ; 
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ume complained of the verbal alteration Sich 
he found made by Lord Stanley in the Canada Bill resolu 
ntroduction of the words ‘‘ produce ke the sneeatiees ‘of 
the proposed law was confined to corn grown in Canada. He 
had voted for the resolutions under the eee that corn 
imported pea Conada under eas transit duty would be entitled to 
the privilege: colonial corn.—Lord Sran.ey expressed I 
regret at having ‘ken the enste of the hon. Member’: 
had stated di: 
that he een we make no change with meaner to erobrigen 
wheat.—In reply to Mr, Labouchere, Mr. ADSTONE Said hi 
intended to move for the revival of the eGehinittes of 1831, oh 
wunPle insurance companies, and to bring in a bill for the perusal 
of members during the recess relative to the Merchant Seamen’s 
Fund.—Mr. Hawes attention of the House to its 
ormer proceedings in Gefen ence to the Danish claims. He reca- 
pitulated the particulars of the case, and concluded with pro- 
posing a motion for an address to Her Majesty, to take into con- 
sisler stan) the demands of the Saimants The SPEAKER inter- 
s a technical obstacle to the recepti a of motion. 
pose a proposed address, rehiaing | Ki grant of public money, 
in a Riese of the whole House. Ulti- 
mately, after a conversation on the subject of precedent, the 
motion was withdrawn, wOigichioaton a ise day of one more 
in conformity with the form ns of the H 
Mr. T. DuNcomsBe then submitted the Peake of the Rev. es 
Browne, late Se to the Knutsford House o n, Who 
has been dismissed his office by the magistrates of ‘Chester, 
after, giving evider Hee eae the governor of the prison before 
ctor of prisons, in the inquiry instituted under the 
rity of the Secretary o1 for the Home Department. 
ase ie chaplain had been dismissed, the governor, whose 
cima had been recommended by Sir J. Graham, was retained, 
with a declaration that he had not forfeited Nae confidence of 
the ineigtatess and as the cera agai the governor 
involved not only sul but the discipline ait thdtiededient of 
Knutsford Hous ee 06 Correction, ari also the conduct of the 
Cheshire magistrat resisting the wishes of Sir J. Graham, 
who had manfully ae his duty, he moved fora select committee 
to inquire and report on all the cireumstances.—Mr. Tarron 
Eorrton, as one of the Cheshire mag athe implicate, denied 
that the one of the prison sessed his confidence, and 
expressed hi { the course whieh ‘they had adopted, But 
even niet thet: they had er! ment, misled by 
feelings of attachment to an old and faithful servant, still a body 
of 34 gentlemen residing in and well acquainted with the locality, 
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must be better judges of all the circumstances than the House. 
The chaplain had See his dismissal to political motives, 
which was a libel pebe aaa for a large Bot ion of those 
who concurred in St re liberal in their political principles, and 
he had been treated desientiy, “ean ering his conduct. 
opposed the moti ir G. KLAND and Mr. Currsts ee 
ported the mohod.: rd. aS ped ae though objecting on pri 
ciple to constituting te ESE a tribunal for judging the Eoutice 
of would never' rt the motion for a com- 
mittee of inquiry, ihe thodene it would be the means of bringing: 
out any concealed facts. He Aenree that the Net ager in 
not attended to his {ope ene but was bound to a 
that the dismissal of the chaplain had been determined hel 
large majo: a Sodas from 
i woul be withdrawn.—Sir ILDE Connery that a most 
overwhelming case had been made ont for inquiry, but after what 
had fallen from Sir J, Granam, he would join in the recom. 
mendation to withdraw the motion.—Some comments were made 
by oth er sR UD SIe ae T. Duncombe withdrew his motion, 
Wednesday.—After the presentation of a number of 
petitions “against fhe’ education clauses of the Factories Bill, Mr. 
RLEN inquired whether it was the intention of Goveri mm. 
rliament to pro- 
vide for the expense of 
Ireland ?—The C: 
of troops from one pai 
expense on the public. Should circumstances, however, require 
an expenditure beyond that in the estimate, the Government 
would of course propose it.—Sir R. PgEL, in reply to a question 
from Mr. Buewirr, stated that joint representations had been 
overnment of 
had distinct instructions, shou 
of procuring the r ‘eimbursemen 
preventing the possibility of the same liability bain incurred i 
future by the guaranteeing Powers. To an application aitloe 
made to this country to contract or guarantee a fresh loan, a 
refusal pea been giv 
OLL, in reply to Mr, R. Yorsu, stated that there was 
no cnrentign to abandon the Ecclesiastical Courts Bill this ses- 
sion.—Sir G. Grey moved the coe reading of the Charitable 
‘Trusts’ Bill.—The AEromiere E AL Said that it was the wish 
of the Government to meet all tie) evils that pelgpeed 28 the 
present system, ant possible, correc! it 
desirable that some scheme should be adopted by ‘which ahaciaes 
might ze visited and improved. 
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‘ofthe Government. 
bring forward a 
the pestent, session. ‘He :ecieeal easure W 
matured to be laid upon the table during ie present session, but 
he could by no Bt pledge himself that the Gove: it would 
be enabled to pass a law on the subject. Te Was anxious nidwerde, 
to have it dist inctly understood, that under no circumstances 
could he consent to the second reading of this bill.—After some 
further conve ag hi 6 2 the motion for the second reading was 
withdrawn. Roman Catholic Oaths’ Bill, after a short dis- 
cussion, was read a second time, as was also the Pound Breach 
and Rescue Bil 
Thursday.—Mr. Lanoucuere gave notice, on behalf of Lord 3. 
Russell, that on Thursday, the 8th June, he would move that t 
eae Tesolveits if into a committee of the whole House, for tHe 
ws relating to the importation of 
or 
of the House for the Whitsun holidays, from its tising.on Friday 
next till the following Thursday 
In reply to Seton ae ut by si R. Inglis, Sir R. Peer stated that 
been sent out to India advising a discontinuance 
of all connected b ficers of the East India Company 
and the ceremonies of the Heathen and Mahommedan worstings 
and also a cessation of alli on the e part of th 
with the ere er of the pagodas and mosque lands. 
instructions had been, as far as practicable, acted upon. e 
attention of the Govemor -General was also directed to the dis- 
continuance of the annual pension of 60,000 rupees to the Temple 
eb eth 
SraNLEY answered several questions respecting the 
can ada Corn Bill. He maintained that Canada could 
Rarpltis supply of grain, and affirmed that the decision of the 
Canadian Legislature, in passing their own act, was all but una- 
nimous, in proof of which he said he would ley on the table of 
the House extracts from the journals of t 
The Government haye no intention of extending the principle of 
the Renae? Bill to other colonies,—Sir R. 
EY, who had a notice of a motion fo. 
of the fuele House on the subject 
Asaph and Bangor, declared his intention of upholding the deci- 
sion of the Legislature. ¢ intimated his willingness to give 
early consideration to the He of increasing the efficiency of 
the establishment et wt 
Mr. CurisTIe moved for eave to bring in a Bill to abolish cer- 
tain oaths and subscriptions now required in the Universities of 
on extension of edu- 
These 
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of Sogiande 
motion. | The 
create in the ponevaine ted 
tion for the farther aitea ween of 
for which the Universities were foun 
denied that religion i at all aye at 
s of civil 
ay irs Serie iN 
ir R. Ineuis d this 
proposal when asked as a boon, he oS aoahiy determined a 
esietit iow that ewes put forward 0s a claim. Religion now 
formed the basis of education in Cambridge, asit always had done 
1 Oxford. The dissenters, instead of exhibiting a spirit of con- 
cilfation towards the Church, opposed it in every shape with the 
utmost animosity and virulence 3 and this therefore was a very 
pe ae time for n to for concessions from the 
atever ppesance might have existed was aR 
by the: establishment of the University of London,—sir H. W. 
supported, and Mr. Snaw  epposed the motio 
Lord: ates Us expressed he ee that objections might 
justly be raised port the 
ie} 
r the mere pury 
MBSbpONEH pee Bill because the introduction of it would renew 
animosities and jealousies, and because uld not, unless 
carried machine answer the purpose of the | proposer.—Lord 
de Roi He agreed that if it were to prevent persons from taking 
degr xford and Cambridge, the practice should be 
abolished; atta that as there wasa different rule at Oxford, at 
