THE GARDENERS CHRONICLE. 
party. The landed gentlem: atural leaders of the the 
people ; fe hong the poor ae Tooe yas ym the ‘manufacturers, 
of br wi 
who w d to lower the pric — ead, knowing that wages 
pee a cacramd _ Heras a Commi jioners said the 
fem mrt rye pe The da 
Fight, i) law, to the — of they. reecived, and owed no thanks for 
It had been made mai f cor paint that the poor-rate 
Sore Tieieianed ; but had not ion and property as 
largely? Im the 10 years preceding the New Poor- © poor- 
rate inane bout 14 per cent., the population about 16 per 
e 
ready so as to iving 1 
boards of guardians, were to be greater, and the pow 
of the still less. ered that the gentlemen of 
Engl: mld act under such a control; indeed, he was e 
they would not brook it, but for their desi to aid their poor 
t ged reduction of the poor’s rate, 
coun ; and all John Bull got 
was to pay from left-hand ket instead of right. 
Mr. GALty KnicexT was not 2 at gentlemen inveighed 
against this law; for it was an pularity. e 
begged the House to remember the evils of the old system, and 
especially tf! mt of wages out of rate: e enemies of 
poor were not those who sought. to raise the’ eS 
of the paupers themselves had been impro ough this 
prac from the Whigs, he would not the less support it, being 
a good law; for the question was too important to be decided 
upon party fast ron scam 
TM. Bucs thought that some of the clauses must be amended; 
and Mr. Munrz and Mr. Lippe opposed the bill on the groun and 
the respectab! 
that it makes no difference between le and ve dis- 
solute , and that thecontinuance of the commissioners for 
ten years would be little less than i 
Sir Ropgar Peet said, the two great e con- 
tinuance of the experiment, the anage- 
ment. We were too apt to forget t evils, and to dwell 
only on Pp . The state of things which preceded the 
the ground of the e he took. He cited 
relieve his idler hour, and etiatantty raise the character of 
the idle vi ly ure was justifiable, although 
ivi Cases must occur. he believed that 
‘ere not heard of as 
people are 
a@ secondary he shoul not lke to be tie rag 
see e 
ment abandoned, especially as Gaden 
room. It had been said that anaes 
that if there were sere ess aid out suey there wa aa laid out 
wages. phy pioag air £ poor 
had. benefited. from Poor Law. “in rah hase Tape 
of this bill, he must, f however reserve to himself of 
in matters of feeling, s pombe archyard burial, there would 
be a due deference to. the pant sentiments and wishes of the 
le. Moreover, he thought there should be no encourage- 
unions. ae ne acd ese that the 
Tied 
been brought to.its present stage with 
x Maute said, that Mr. Wakley hi: 
Ps sik Swe the persons who had distur! 
cen! —- ~ So little wi e boards of guardians fit 
for the uncontrolled execution of the tty, that there was hardly 
any abuse of the old system 0 ota me or other of those 
bert go Ot solicited the 
ATCHBULL pooetcngan punt the second reading, 
‘oun me " ghaestent to many 0! a= the clauses, poses wished fora 
good deal of relaxation in its working. He instan ced from his 
own neighbourhood a class of recent cases whe the 
had arisen solely from the contin e of sev re a and 
whi would have been right the guardians should possess 
a power to ae out-door relief, from the es that during 
such a frost the poor, however willing to work, should obtain 
employment. 
Lord Howrcex believed the act of 1934 to be one of the most be- 
t had been objected, that men 
er than enter the hapa rae 
on goes the burials, because the poor- 
eighbourhood of ope te owe with 
aauetiol churches of the 
e * msulting tie people’s 
the Snr meee eae Sas: 43d. of Elizabeth ; if it 
these two 
more children than he could maintain, it was consistent wi 
st: f Elizabeth that Of them shomid be scpsiied | = 
with work. iad é 
Mr. Rice i that the the management 
should be-with a central board; and Captain Pechell and Mr. W. 
Attwood objected both to the system and to the 
Sir E. Ficsrgn said, he would give no vote; for he could not 
alteration in the existing law. 
Mr. LANGDALE wished for ? estore gr ag — of all 
attend their respective places rship on 
Se to 
unda’ 
a Tei said, that in his county the original unpopularity of 
P ared, and the law was working 
most beneficially. He was this bill, though he did 
not like the separation 3) 
Mr. ricer believe “el Mis the New Poor Law tended not, as 
J. Russ en ‘0 
on the principle of the statute of Elizabeth, which goes at once 
i id infirm, but requires from the able-bodied a 
test to distinguish whether they are 
willing to perform labour if 
it be found forthem. The noble Lord rea 
test would admit any considerable re! ion ; but t had be 
© suggestion offered, which woul - » in his opinion, bring 
bi e evils of the syste: . Knatchbull ph 
for out-door Epa og eason of severe by ag If that were given 
this year, you e it next year likewise, to such as might 
be destitute ts cent ‘moth ony weather should be less pay bic 
Thus, step by step, the a ancient evils would be brought 
ni was for 
seek popularity by 
He would not fas dre rae: into detail ; but he should regre' 
reduced 
the period laced from ten years t ae -—Upon a division the 
motion was carried by a majority o: ; the numbers being— 
ayes, 201; noes, ~ 
—Mr. UHOUN gave notice, for the 23d instant, 
of a motion to sanbaat the laws of the Irish Parliament relative to 
the College of Maynooth. 
In reply to a question by Mr. O 
conscientiously support the second reading, and on ‘the ‘other 
= he did not wish, by voting for the rejection of the bill, to 
negativ 
Colonel Woon objected to the bill, as calculated to undermine 
the local ease 
Mr. aoe regretted that these new judges were 
well as civil Leena os — the smi 
on the a le an ed gentle. 
pro: Fox Mavtx also obtained lea’ to bring in a bill, in con. 
nexion with the corssnottioa one, for the ar ge of enabling the 
Lord Chancello ; ve _* certain 
in bankruptcy, inso wency, and lux harged 
commissioners. il be Lord Chancellor se anthe, 
ee to increase the number of judges, in case the business: should 
be found more than be conveniently discharged by those 
appointed by the County Courts Bill. 
The House having resolved itself into a co 
sider 
this was going a 
abolish it aera and Mr. Brotherton saw no ni ecessity 
rotection at all. Mr. teicher yee it hazardous to 
take so long . term a8 as twelve months. Leave was then given to 
bring i : 
ir J. HoBHOUSE, On account of the lateness of the hour, post- 
Fri 
Keane. 
© had not t the least hesitation in saying, that 
d the grant should or so 2,000/. a year to Lord 
‘o immediate succe: 
ral returns moved for b' Mr. ‘Connell were then ordered. 
Mr. Divetr conde for leave to bring in a bill to allow indivi- 
duals professing the Jewish religion to make the declaration con- 
tained in As Act 1 and 2 Vic., cap. 5 and 
PALMERSTON that he could aos ie on mene table the uae with 
Texas until after its ratifica! 
Mr. O’ConnELE said eatin aieet one e he Id bring on in due 
course the motion on this subject of which he had given ueihene 
Mr. Sanrorp gave notice Sarg he should move, in committee 
it Bill, pan and alterations in 
one ould limit 
several of the clauses, and a other: e which wi 
the operenien ae the bill to five pow 
Lord STA: YY, after explaining so: ‘ircumstance: relating to to 
the couveriaiel which had taken place ae h the ‘preceding evening, 
as to the arrest of Mr.Macleod, wished to ask if Government had 
en any, wi for procuring Mr. Macleod’s liberation. 
rd PALMERSTON said, t! a case nearly similar e pre. 
sent had been expected to occur one or two years since. In anti- 
cipation of that event, instructio: been sent to Fox, 
and oe circumstances rendered it unnec: r him to 
essary 
m at = time, he had sakconteens them as equ ally appli- 
presen The last despatches from Mr. Fox had 
been received a : oy or two since, and the Lag instructions, 
the nature of which he could not be expected to disclose, had 
been only that day sent off. 
In answer to questions from Mr, Hume and Mr. D uncombe, the 
noble Lord afterwards stated that the Governor-General had given 
4 sanction une approval to the destruction of the Caroline, and 
re acta Government did consider it a justifiable proceeding, 
from imvasion. 
to amen: 
‘ws relating to the drainage in Ireland. He believed the 
0 operate bent > and tend materially to 
d to revenue and its 
ills, and he hoped it would not encounter so 
vK for leave to bring in a bill for the 
abolition of the panishment of death in certain cases. The bill 
as that whic ch failed during the preced- 
“should succeed in the present bill, he 
jimilar bills for Ij relan cotlan 
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the journals of the Ho 
acerh series of resolutions. 
. poe da seconded the motion, and promised to support any 
endeavours to amend what were now called secondary, but which 
unishments. 
abolition of the pu- 
ertain cases, and would therefore make no 
ed 
opposition to the ction of the bill ; but in the declared ob- 
ject of extending ition to all cases he « could not concur. 
He agreed that the subject of secon Pp t was on 
more fit to be taken up by Government by i iduals ; and 
the sent Government had done so much upon the whok 
question, he thought the pr 
t of attempting to set fire to her Majesty’s dockyards, 
as one with respect to which he dae io consent aboli- 
tion of capital punishment. He thought it necessary that the 
legislation should be so regulated that 7 executive might re- 
tain the tard of lightening the amount of punishment in propor- 
tion to thé gravity of = each offence. 
Leave was then gi en for the introduction of the bill. 
Mr. Ewarr wine to resent to the House the injustice of 
inj 
the distinctive duties now pressing on the Ss produce 
of the East Indies, on their manufacturing produce and inter- 
colonial trade ; a he jeter reserve himself until 
e eq) 
wed x 
Courts he w d to 
should be perambulatory, not 
town of the distritt, but from time tere pe in such other 
‘ht 
— 
al wher 
as beyond 5/.,, a leave it to the option of the parties 
hey tried by the judge alone, or by a jury of 
five persons. 
Mr. Ewazr thought great as due to the honourable 
for ny rryene aes ethia po rartincrg and hoped it would lead 
Of @ system of stipendiary magistrates throughout 
proposed change, 
‘oreigners not entitled to any 
this co verve He offt however, no 
his early stage. The motion was sup: 
ported by Mr. Warburton, Mr. ae and Mr. A. White, and 
opposed by Mr. Gladstone, who would — however, resist its 
introduction; it was accordingly agreed 
The Hous 
aware that by this arrangement the 
Xpedition <a be siSkety to arrive in the month of June, and, 
dex iceetay. a6 the most unhealthy season ; but a thought it 
trea that the — should arrive there at aseaso en they 
shou se bes bea = th 
shoul 
mad . 
of the expedition sonia not yet _ — before Parliament sheets 
general beri of the expedition 
Lord DON 
naval tars o_ i 
British Govern 
their own hand: 
Lord PALMERSTON deeply regretted that the matter had not 
been already fairly. = furven settled. After a long corre- 
spondence commission mae the interests of the two 
ims on 
sorry 
me eit of those claims, moe a had been pro: 
ment would, essary, take 
arisen as to the 
ance of their duties. This difference w ould be referred to the 
Belgian minister, hi as umpire, an 
this point b thee there would be 
further delay. 
1, H. BaiLtiz moved fora select committee to inquire into 
the einaians vot the islands and highlands of Seotland, betewh 
ing 
real 
, thi 
patience w a Po a hae ag people had 
their distress entitled th < 
Lord TEienmourH froma a. ‘eee 
Lord bf Resseve did not think the shi solely 
ee in the oka we soy the eniotoey | 
from ge pr 
duties oo even if it had, he emo: ———e pag = 
principle to sive eee entary relief rever 
produc oe by a legislative measure. cen © were 
aire 
of the Queen’s iiiects who would make this a 
granted, an argument for similar aids; and he did not apprehend 
at purposes of 
excite undue 
mittee, if favourable to the grant, would incr of 
refusing what he ge eggs “thought es couse ought not to con 
cede. i inqui are a ll, he would rather have it 
made by impartial com 
Sir R. Pex said, that ¥ where Cali had been so much sufft E 
be hard to refuse a. committee. 
rt of a comaniee would at least make knows a to 
posse for them, without arrangements which would greatly 
ease the coniplication and expense of the remedy. 
elucidation of such a subject aco oon oe of the 
preferable to 
quisite, he preferred a commission on the spot. 
— peony Pe at Nottingham, and on the uorth- 
‘coast of Ireland, a3 in the highlands, Suck a proposal 33 
and he would 5 
ise stt = oppose s motion was nde 
