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ver, had expressed his opinion during the progress of the So 
Bill, that it would not bring the ranerpeser up to 30,000. 
purpose.—Several other members spoke in favour of the motion, nisters professe: ve Be luded with some 
which, on a division, was carried ve a majority of 54 against 50. | strong caer pi en haste pal Sting ot cher mse in in. 
The “SoLicrror-GexzRaL moved for a committee to consider | troducing the bill, and declared his intention te against the 
the expediency of erecting a eaters in the neighbourhood of the | clause, with a Lg to defeat the bill. 
30 little opposition, that the numbe coal anted to 52,000 “= 
still ins nominally, till the octet od ; and then, of | inns of court, for the sittings of the courts of law and equity. The r. C. Woop claimed for himself and Lord Howick a desire 
e , they aced by the strik of many thousands. | remoteness of Westminster-hall ad what might be called the | augment the constituency of Ireland. The result of a 20/ salle 
Yet at this day they were between 40,000 and 50,000, exceeding geal of the town ioned serious inconvenience to soli- | franchise, he said, would have been to give to Ire! 135,000 ad 
b hi persons the numbers ich the Reform Bill | citors, and through them to suitors. Vi places had been | ditional voters. He should vote st the present clause, 
4 id cted to yield. When he should see - | suggested where the new building might d. ong | though he aware that the loss of the clause would lead to the 
ing diminution of the ency, he should gladly co-operate | others, a plan been drawn up for the e m in Lincoln’s- donment of th 1.—A succession of angry di: on 
with Lord Howick for the ess of that evil; but he would n -fields of a sufficiently large. to accommodate all the | Irish matters, thought, would be much to ented. For 
Si mtlemen declined to t leases of a -— of and to afford room for the preservation of all the | th e reason he hoped the rT nd opposite 
perty, consent to inundate the constitu records of the kingdom. motion wi econd: y Si would like be withdrawn. It nly revive angry feelings 
without any property whatever. ‘ Wilmot, suppo! Mr. Hume, er ithout a division d o the eventual settlement of the question more difficult 
Mr. O’CowneELt instanced several counties in which, though . GorDoN obtained leave to bring in a bill to facilitate the r. Heme had much difficulty in obtai a 
ition had been — ulated fed by comes the number of payment of compensati for claims upon the abolition of slavery, | the ribo cries of “divide and ee witha aw,’ which continued, 
—On the motion ir oop, a cominittee was ordered tu be | more or less, throughout the whole of his speech. He censured 
voters was, in his opinion y small ct ‘oportion to of Sir M. W. 
n appointed to take into consideration the several plans before the Viscount Howick and Mr. C. Wood for their conduct on this occa. 
their population. He said, boecheenes that he woul = er 39) 
statements to show the insufficiency of the Irish cons’ Leetagmene’ theimprovement of the metropolis,’and likewise totake | sion. He taunted Sir R. Peel for the inconsistency of his con- 
as. it was idle to suppose.that any impression emake be van sae pa into consideration the petitions for the opening of Waterl duct, a xpressed a hope that Ministers would take a warning 
that House by the most important facts. Lord Howick called Southwar wark, and Vanxhall bridges. om Ww occurred on this occasion, and not again modify 
- ; f thei e 
ednesdiy.— Mr. More reread L Said, in answer to a ques- | their measures when satisfied of the goodness of their propositions 
tion foe Sir R. Inglis, that a case of infliction of corporal punish- Mr. O’ConnE Lt said that what had taken place on this measure 
ment had lately taken place ona Sunday on board one of her | would do Ministers good in Ireland. They had made an attempt 
Majesty’s ships, but that an order had been issued by the Admi- fairly, openly, and pany to — a oe gr which no man 
ralty prohibiting the practice in ere could assert was adequate to the and population of that 
To an inquiry by Mr. Ewart, Mr. E. J. STAN ieyY replied that | country; and they had ca eg ‘Tranquillity by their adminis- 
it was the intention of the Woods and 3? ?orests to open the whole | trative impartiality. The noble Lord (Stanley), by his talents 
and hi ald not but serve his friends, but 
better have evinced his good wishes by moving to meg’ bm 40s. 
freeholdérs, than by aiding the opposition as he had just been 
Lord J. Russexs said, that when the Legislature had taken 
this subject, there was a very "gene eral feeling that before it dealt 
question of registry it ought to settle the question of 
franchise. He had ees 64. the proper amount ; he had given | of the grass part of the park to the public. It was also intended high standing, could e hi iy some- 
way to the proposal for 8/. in the hope that this impo tt matter | to open a road, by means of a bridge, from Hano he his ies likewise, and so he ni 
might = Line settled, cor prcitod nting to endure, for so great an ob- | grass park ; but it was not intended to’ make any bridge over the mt occ a had heard with gr pl the noble 
ject, the ts directed tthe Government. Fi had been | Regent’s Canal to Primrose-hill, which would be accessible in | Lord’s calcul: to the constituency to which the Govern. 
anxious hin ‘teisieve the error committed by a great party, who | the us m: . He begged also to state, that it was the in- t bill would ise. ere was Some exaggeration in those 
had preferred their own triumphs to the tranquillization of Ire- | tention rnment to lay before the House, in thi of culations, it was true ; but would show the people of Ireland 
land; butit now his hope was to be thwarted. He | the week, a plan of the Regent’s Park, for the pu e that the bi as a better bill, perhaps, than they had imagined. 
did not consider this amendment to be a more than a ques- | ing the contemplated arrangem : rd Morrers, on being is would increase their confidence in the Government, All he 
i wording ; but he was not dispos concede it, because | applied to on the subject, by Mr. Sergeant Jackson, stated his uired was that Ireland should be placed on a footing of equalil 
id introduce inconvenience into shone ent clauses. ‘The impression that it would not be possible to go on with the Irish gland, and nothing less him.-- 
noble Lord cited some of the printed returns, to prov - | Court of Chancery Bill on Friday next. Tr. id afe in exp! . Russe. 
d Howick’s proposal for a 5/. test. Precedency having been given to the Parliamentary Vot protested that still in per! rance che grounds 
on which ejther a ae Lord or Sir R. Peel opposed the clause. 
(ireland) Bill, Lord J- bests in moving the order of the fist 
use, he said, to talk of future redress for the evil of excluding the 
Irish an representation : the present was the time to remedy | for going into committee upon it, ent potas into an explanation of divided—For the clause, 289; A, it it, 300. 
that defect. If it were eben be disfranchise them, that should | the course intended to be ursued by ernment in reference to | Mi nD ers, 11.—After the numbers had 
be tess openly and expressly, and not in this indirect and tor- | the measure. His Lordship said teat it it was not the opinion of > test anxiety prevailed to learnthe course which 
tuous way. England, he was persuaded, wished to see them | his colleagues and himself that the yote of Set night bering Ministers would take. A large number of members gr them- 
honestly and fairly represen’ esciited, and not defrauded of their rights. | to be considered as conclusive. The bill broughtin by Mini selves upon the floor of the House, leaving only a small space 
‘The House could not, he added, without bag great indigna- | containing as it did a clause by which a 5/. franchise w ie vacant in front of the table. The ui , however, 
tion, withdraw the f: ranchise bestow ed upon them, and take astep | created, had_be' affirmed by 301 members of the House af observed.—Lord J. Russext then, in a b » reviewed the 
which would justify an angry spirit in Ireland. Commons. Moreover, the noble Lord (Viscount Howick), ow ent had pursued, in the h for 
said the noble Lord had done what he ally did | moving his amendment on Monday, sti:ted expressly that, by ‘the the people of Ireland the advantages which they were entitled to 
when case ly defective,—he had made a gen roposed modification, he wished, in reality, to make an addi- | anticipate from the measure of 1829. the rejection of 
declamation on popular rights, to raise a cheer behind him ; and | tion to the it sed by the bill. e House, in that | th ond clause, which was the fo’ ion of the whole bill, 
under cover of that cheer he had retired from further i case, might, he thought, with perfect consistency adopt the fran- | farther discussion, h 7 e was 
and fancied he had made a successfi h. ¢ to the | chise of the noble Lord, in addition to that of the bill. He would, ted to retard that settlement of this great question which he 
i entertained by oe framers of the Refo: Bill, and | therefore, proceed with the bill, and would take the sense of the | hoped would ultimately take place. The noble Lord concluded 
by Mr. O’Connell himself, with respect to the numbers of the House on the 8/, franchise p: roposed: ‘by ‘by his noble friend’s (Lord | by moving that the chairman do now leave the chair. 
Trish pe ypresermegi he showed that these t:umbers did now far ag Pe Besar ir R.P = agr — the noble Lord that no public \- 
exceed all those expectations. But if the numbers were really next uj explanation of tage could now be anticipated from a prolonged discussion. 
diminished, what were the remedies proposed? In 32 Irish coun- jengeh: a which the purport was, tha. t he he saw no probability ¢ of right hon. Pattee then repeated some of the arguments which 
ties, Government proposed the same ch be- | a settlement of the question, either’ of the Irish registration or | he had before addressed to the House in justification of himself | 
the borough; excluding > and giving every- | the Iris! m1 i the course of the present session. | and his friends, between whom bcs seems cater | 
to occupation. If property were excluded from the county on, he should not persevere with the re- | perfect union prevailed, They were | oes AGT not having 
could it be d?> And amendments of which he had given notice; nor should | offered a plan of their own for the definition of the Irish franchise; 
‘what confidence could be placed in the legislation a set he interfere with the further p: s of the present bill but that was a task of which he thocene a Government only 
‘Ministers who, after taking time tq deliberate throughout the Sir R. lained the » pursued b; on ought to assume the responsibility. But they (the O 
recess, had forward such a measure as this, suddenly | He had thought that they were then discussing the | had indicated the principles on which they were willing to fix the | 
changing, three days ago, their 5/. to an 82. qualification? | great principle of the bill. It was now, poset — that the | Irish franchise, namely, penefieta} - i gonrgeds combined with oceu- | 
Lord John had twitted atives for not accepting the $/. | amendment w: se forward, eal ubstitul pancy. The noble Lord said he di pnt rstand such a com- 
was not to mere amount— to principle ; | for another, but to propose an afiditional frani ag The noble | bination; but was there not ichtie s nalogous in the county 
they required for the counties a qualification , not Lord (Lord J. Russell) strenu y opposed on Monday an amend- constituency of England, as established by the noble Lord’s En- 
occupation. To the general principles laid down by Lord H ment which he now showed himself toadopt. After some | glish Ref Act? ee = Peel concluded with some remarks on 
although he did not intend to support his details. The | further remarks on what he deemed the iderateness of | the posit misters had placed themselves by 
effect of the present he,considered, was mtersgmernen the hee hen hon. Stroman to some official returns consistent con net ‘which had destroyed the confidence of their 
if it had an affirming the principle of unt had been that very day, and which showed, ws dherents in their wn Government.— Howick pro- 
beneficial interest as a part of the franchise ; \ that said, how impossible sible it wa was for them to form any calcul; t the implied imputation that he was unfriendly to 
ment he should support. If it were carried, he thought, it must | to the extent of the constituency which the Government bill he le of Ireland. He had been educated in principles of 
be fatal to the principle of this hill-to that principle which went | would create. z conciliation towards Ireland, and had always been taught to 
to exclude property from its influence in the franchise of coun- Lord Morrern said that he «and his friends had not brought | piace pepe mer in the loyalty and sense of the ple of 
ties : and if counties in Ireland, then of counties in England also. | forward a measure to remodel the franchise, until they had been | Ireland.—The motion that the Chairman leave the chair 
He Bg adgrear the imony given in 1825 by the | called on, under the pretext of correcting the registration, to | agreed to, ial ent to an abandonment of the bill. 
isement of the 40s. freeholders s the whole constituency of Ireland. Though Friday Russet gave notice that on Monday, May 
leading Catholics , the ranchis 
under the Relief Bill; and concluded by s' ae, secre his 
opinion that the conduct of Ministers on this question had disen- 
titled them to the confidence of PurBaeanat. 
Tred 
into consideration the trade in corn. That day being a holiday, 
Lord J. Russell — that he would make the motion on the first 
ea followin; 
‘The House havi one resolved itself into committee of ways and 
BE Doe wn CHANCELLOR eh the ExcHequer rose to Ege og his 
oBe 
Mr. O’ConnELe re‘e to some details on the disfranchise- ki 
ment of the 40s. freeholders. He told the hows they knew little = my 
fe emark.—Mr. Hume moved as endment on that 
of a people, five millions of whom never tape focasa'nd asf in- | farther 
xication. The English Parliament, he said, co inflict | part of the cogent psoas which provides 5 for th the leasehold quali- | financial statement for the year. The actual results had been 
the injuries on Ireland which si inflicted om ola ; Ppat they | fication, that the should: be one year instead of soeantis less favourable than he had anticipated, for though the expendi- 
would still do it if they could. Population was the basis on which years. ” e hon. Mem T Sul uentiy modified his amendment, | ture had amounted only to 49,285,000/., the income had only 
he contended that representation ought to be founded, and on | so as to e the vote, Ay or No, on the term of 14 years. A | reached the sum of 47,413,000/., leaving a defici ciency of more than 
that to have 170 members. ° long debate followed, and, on a division, the amendment was ne- | J,840,000/._ For the ensuing year the total expenditure was cal 
Lord Howie said, his object was as had gatived by a majority of 513 against 47.—Mr. Hume then mo culated at 50, 261., and the anticipa’ receipts at 48,310,000L, 
to restrict the but to enlarge that 5/. be instead of 382. - a division the amendment | leaving a deficie: 421,000, His object would be to raise 
to preserve the old principle @ property qualifica , | Was negatived by a majority of 434 against 126.—Mr. Broturr- te tio: revenue to meet this without imposing 
and to add other qualifications also. On adivision, Lord Howick’s | Ton moved, as it was 12 o’clock, that the Chairman report ditional burdens on the people. as sure that the two arti- 
carried by a of 291 270.—Vis- | progress.—The ee was resisted by Lord J. Russeix, and on | cles—sugar and timber—had already suggested themselves to the 
count Howres said, that after that night, he | a division was negatived by 428 against 93.—A motion was then | House as those with which he intend eal, The present duty 
sh reverse the order of the two amendments which he in- | made by Mr. viomsenrig that the Chairman do now leave the | on colonial timber amounted to 10s. mn Baltic timber to 
tended to propose on clause.—Mr. O’Connett gave | chair. This m , it was » would, if ied, put | 55s. He proposed to modify this duty by ing that on colonial to 
notice he should move an amendment to restore the .. | an end to th er, and considerable excitement in con- | 20s., and reducing that on Baltic timber to 50s. a ad. From 
holders. on followed between Sir R. » Lot sequence .—Mr. WakLEy reproac the Government change in the tim duties he antici 
J. Russell, and I ley, in the course of which it was ar- — uch bitterness with ee foe ee nipaegs into reverts rad 750, nag The alteration which he intended to pro 
ranged that the committee should no further that even- ituation by their ould still l a seeps of 50 per 
ing, that the chairman should report progress, and ask leave to esenss replied to Mr. Wakley, ey, and went ‘on nto “say t at he cent. ‘to kena sugar. On foreign sugar, now amo! og 
sit again on Wednesday; and that Lord ee oe wished to have a division on the secon use that night. That | 63s., he should propose to reduce the duty to 36s. 
Bill, fixed for that day, division would, in a eas! his course; for ange in the sugar duties he expected an * reordon 
esday.—Mr. Fresarim py moved for a saan onuulas to | if there should be a majori the ald cer- | 900,000/. to the revenue, but he would estimate it 
think it ess to proceed with the bill._Sir R. Peet said | 700,000/. From s' ii then, he looked for an 1 
quire into the comparative advamtages afforded by different 
in ugar 
Channel! ports, as points of d for the West India mails. crease to the revenue of not less than 1,300,000/. which — 
in which 80, be provided fi 
The hon. gentleman_prefaced his motion by a statement, sequence of the advantage vertently given them by a friend 
he endeavoured to show that if this 5 the ure, still he thought it would not be satisfactory to | Russell had that ever given notice Ir 
outh, no other port in the Channel would be found to offer | snatch an equivocal victory, and he would the motion to be | mit the qu f the corn trade to the consideration of the 
equal advantages. Considerations of private and local interest i wn.— ation Mr. O’Connell’s mo- | House, and if the Loot iacagl = agreed to, he should be 
had led to the attempt to transfer the packets to a | tion was withdrawn, on an understanding that the House should | under no uneasiness res’ ee 400,0001, If they 
Pp in every way inferior to Falmouth ; and if a removal was to | then adjourn, and that the clause should be proceeded with on not agreed to, it would of course become his duty to make 
take place, the public were entitled to have i » that it | Thursday. c Pp ion by direct taxation. 
whic! ee a the best suited for the pur- | Thursday.— Mr. Walter took the oaths and his seat as Member Mr. Govutnurn, Lord F, Ecerton, and other Members com 
pose.—Sir. C. Leatox seconded the motion.—Mr. F. H. F. Ber- | for Nottingham. The Hon. Gentleman was introduced by SirF. plained that Government had ae pent explicitly — weir 
KELEY endeavouredto show Neve Bristol mse many advantages, | Burdett and Mr, Fielden.—Some private bills having vie’ important a question as the Corn Laws. Spee Pe 
more particularly if the service rried on by steam. and ms ed, Lord J. Russ#L1 sai Russet in reply defended the course pursui that 
‘The. ceLLor of the sere he course | answer to Mr. G. Palmer, that he would proceed with the Poor intention of Ministers was to pro} the adoption of moderate 
which ad pursued, and in which, he said, they had | Law Bill on Monday se’nnight ; and in answer to Col. sibthorp, —Sir R. Peet called upon Ministers to explain seer 
been guided solely by a wish to act for the true interest of the | that the budget would be brow: rought forward on Friday,and the civil | vi an earlier day than that stated, in o! ive f 
public. He had — the company un- | contingencies om Monday. lie anxiety on the subject of the Corn-Laws, and om 
dertaken the conveyance of the mails to adopt ne particular port |} Lord Meseees in moving the e day for going into ition of the country ; whic! dJ. Russert &- 
as their of ‘Ail he could do was to select the | committee the Parliamentary Pears Cretan) Bill, made a | fended, on the ground that the policy which caused ‘ 
place where the mails should be put on board. erable length, in support of the ciple of a | creased expenditure had met with the approval the ae 
Sir H. Vivraw said that a. 36 miles nearer to the | franchise based on arating tothe poor, and concluded by warning / sition party,—The CHaNceLion oP “igh Excnequer said noe nt 
i Dartm he thought, was conclu- | Sir R. Peel not to allow himself to be hurried along in the impe- | intended to meet the deficiency of the ear by asking @ to the 
sive in ofPulaupethen ates? choronpeese advocated the claims | tuous course ¢! chalked out to him by his noble associate (Lord t acrmer goa Bills. e formal motion nee in in reference 
of Cork, Valentia, or® in the south-west of Ire! Al St It might not be long, he fine Leaione Bares right hon. | Budget was then 
would never require more than seven or eight . | baronet would regret such a course, e forward, as 
een Halifax Valentia.—Mr. Hus thought the Chancellor had done before, to his honour, pee ose oe fe ted CITY. 
o quer had made @ sai statement. He did not such principle as that which now met hi: demnation. Mo kel, ae wet 
think the subject could be so well inve @ committee of rd STANLEY began by retorting with some severity the per- oney-marKe at ome 
that House as by ani commission. It might, | sonal attack with which Lord Morpetit clos He | done at 90 at she commencemen usiness, b 
ll to have the Eperorpen' Ah pon mo is motives by which he had actuated in his | quently advan’ 904 to see hich was the closing pric | 
te defended Dartmouth against” jon to the clause under consideration ;. and neta from | Bank Stuck aepridantd a farther of 14 per cent.» the | 
ee as bn vey imperfect as they were that effects last view BE g 168 to 9. | 
upon its port. It was & harbour easy to enter, : 
sate when entered, and Say chee aaa of the Bill would be very ; widely different from those which Mi- 
