316 THE GARDENERS’ CHRONICLE. [N° 20." 
trade and the sugar trade now proposed t. Gran’ 
ni wig > had stated in 1329, that when ecotaae of he lie of 
Trade he had propos a change in the differential duties, which 
complicated state of things’produced by our na! ational debt | by Mr. CHotMoNnDELEy, who denied that the proposed reducti 
car it impracticable for us to maintain our native industry wit bron in any way benefit the poor consumer. The whole e saving, 
rchan' 
would have had the effect of letting in the Brazilian sugars, and | laboured under no such disadvantages. The amount of Lord Howick said he was entirely at issue with Dr. Lu 
that in a a of ‘that . ee the cabinet of which he na ions might be reasonably made a subject of ate; bat | on the question whether the admission of fore’ sugar would 
beena ber had ac True, ater own slaves had x maintained, for the benefit not merely tend to encourage the slave trade. His Lordship denied that there 
then fea emancipated, an ao tet there an equi = peewee of the persons protected, but of the entire state. He conclude; by | was amy ground for the assumption ome ae labour would be un. 
the sugar of our o pee and that ork Brazil; but there was a7me that he one verre the proposition of Government, as able to compete with slave labour in th: wth of sugar. He be. 
then, as now, this pein difference, that to purchase the Brazilian | likely to distur cial relations, without benefiting | lieved the Chancellor of the Exchequer mi have carried 
sugar was to encourage the slave trade, which in our own colonies | the 3 S likely’ to ‘be injurious to the West Indies, | measure , by proposing at the same timea of the 
was as completely extinguished then as it nowis. Y and to afford a dir ent to slavery ve trade uty on colonial sugar, trusting to the increased consumption for 
o ng the Brazilian slave trade had no weight with the | —Mr. Warp said the Opposition had taken their ground skilfully, | making up the revenue; but even in its present sha e 
e present Go ent 
the important object of suppressing the slave trade. They had made 
than c the public, andthe eage ith which the proposal was 
it a condition of their be pecrice 4 into a late treaty with the state of | The Governm ywever, not pro to discontinue | sisted only strengthened him in that conviction, hu. 
Texas, that the right of search should be allowed by that state to | the protection of Colonial ; otecting duty of 50 per ut forward on this question, by most who 
our cruisers anxiety in this debate, added the hon. m nm till left upon that sugar—a larger than the | used it, merely to hide the ugly features of the grounds on which 
ber, ot so much from the immediate subject of it as from | warmest advocat he landed interests would have ventured | the ed reductions were really resisted, but the 
the still larger considerations which the discussion involved. He | to ask on behalf of corn. He th into the general | the try were not blinded by these professions. H ald not 
knew the great resources of this country, b tt pre- | question of Corn-laws, com) xed duty with the e eX: le of the hon. ber for Newark (Mr. Glad 
add to her taxation. She had come to the v f a | gradual scale, and asserting his preference for the former.— stone) in imputing low and de; ‘ing motives to his opponents 
gr mmercial revolution, and extensive reforms must be | Sir R. Incxirs said, he should be ashi the Slave | but those who lived im glass houses ought to be cautious of throw. 
made ; but it was impo le move in n without | Trade a party question. The present i: was not ya corn, | ing stones ,; andhe (Lord Howick) could not forget the part which 
‘bing some protective duty or other. ports | or timber, or cotton ; but it whether you should that member took in the debates of 1833 ; nor cunld he for. 
mai ly a ased, and it was of the greate: po! an increased production of sugar grown by slaves, thenehe en- tt who was then the proprietor of a certain te mi 
to reviv by @ measure which uld have the effect of | co ing slavery and the Letty trade, Rena their eee nor the frightful mortality that took pla over. 
making England the great entrepét of the Res t orld, | nay, their yearly aggrava cruelti worked negroes on that estate Vhatever t ion of this 
e objections of almost every one of those — be s e | Woop expressed his = oad ‘teeiee tia had spokes debate might be, of the final result he thought no one who 
general principles of fi e to any appli r Lord Sandon’s resolution, so little solicitude had been ex- | served thesigns of thetimes could feel the the slightest doubt. ~ Mr, 
self, was the strongest sibleargument, be thought, d for uffering x of this cow member | Wynn spoke in favour of Lord Sandon’s mo! 3 Mr. Evans 
for considering all the branches of the rage Fate comprehen. | for Nottingham (Mr. ter) had indeed calle House to | against it.— SLEY thought it uty to the 
es! 
al 
f the 
by declaring his intention to vote against a proposition, the effect 
gh ‘0 
into po questions, they would mn ce set at reat: The people 
youring par- | of which would be to afford com somerelief. He enlarged upon 
i h our home trade ; 
would not be content to continue oe system of fa’ 
cul 
t ti 
ticular c! cfebtith the importance of our foreign as compared wit! e; | opposite; but that consideration should not induce him to neg- 
Mr. Gravsrone said he was not there to dispute the general | an insisted on the importance of a low p of corn, for the | lect hi: mstituents.—Sir A. GRANT complimented 
principles of free trade. He harap to confine himself to the par- | cheaper the capa = their bread, the more money | Sir S. Lushi d Worsley on the independence they 
* tieular subject before the House, which was that of the Su; ey could oO bw d other necessaries. He then | h present occasi e then went on 
Duties. His nt was, that with an imperceptible benefit to | entered into the ae - the revenue to be rais' , | the right of the West Indian planters to prot mn. e ty 
e consumer, and a gr vantage to the producer, G . | and defended the estimates of the Chancellor of the Exchequer ili given a compensation for the slaves, he said, 
ment was about a ion its course of resistance st | If the pr of ment, he said, to be cted, | scarcely one-third of their value. ose sla re as 
sla and the slave trade. © abatement held out was Is. 6d. | some intimation ought to giv to so’ er means of | private property asthe land they worked on; and where the Go- 
ht be en as me oth 
poranersen the deficiency ; but no such means had been suggested 
from the opposite ng of the house. He referred toa declaration 
to 
e full. 
made last year by Sir R. Peel, that to meet deficiency of revenue some observations from Mr. J. O’Connell, Sir J. R. Reid, 
merely b 
e next year’s importation of sugar fro’ own posses. ly by a loan dawn af exp edient discreditable to a great coun- | Mr. S. Herbert, and Mr. Gisborne, Mr. V. SmiTH objected that 
sions would be so plentiful as to supply the whole public in th try; and should the right hon. baronet come into office, he | the proposition enunciated in Lord Sandon’s amendment was not 
try at moderate prices; and if so, e end of would no doubt ge ag and act upon that oer tion. Would | founded in fact; for that the real object of the grant of 
argument about humanity to own people which was up | gentlem: to a house-tax or a pro tax? | 20,000,000/. was to © guish slavery in ow lantations, 
to co L argument of humanity to the slaves. Before | A property-tax should be kept as a reserve or war; yet without | whicl object had been completely effected, and all possible means 
= slavery, sugar was at a lower price than an such a tax at this moment he saw no resource except in the pre- | were in progress for the suppression a - slave trade, both by 
h was romised by Ministers ; th ple consented | sent proposals.—Mr, GouLBURN re: i the House this | our naval force on the African coast, and by the recently organ- 
po incur a higher price er than contim system which they | was the year in which the slave apprenticeship had been origin- | ised attempt at co cial civilisation. 
abhorred. It did not follow, because we souzit to exclude slave- | ally destined to cease. at, he ed, would have rd STANLEY began he denying Mr. Gisborn: putation, 
grown sugar, that we should exclude all other slave-grown pro- | feeling of the House if Lord Stanley, on the day when he intro- | that the Conservatives were trying to slide off on a a by: ene On 
duce; for the severity of labour which e slavery so horrible | duced that measure, had proposed that in the moment when that the contrary, Lord poet tears amendment was a refusal to 
was peculiar to sugar. Coffee, for instance, was cultivated by | apprenticeship should terminate, the slave trade should be let | adopt the measure upon which Gove: ent Soveee t to go into 
much lighter , even by that of women and children. So, as ? mittee. It had been said that a great le was row for 
to the sugar refinery ; that did not encourage the slave | of ces, he denied that Ministers inted out in | the broug! the test—that of trade, ani 
trade, because it opened no fresh demand for sugar. At this very what way their proposals would redress that exigency Mr. C. one was agreed upon this principle; but the fact was, that 
the foreign slave trade wasa monster, consuming on an aver- ‘ood asked how the Conservatives would supply the defal- free ad been adv ed by ol ‘pt Mr, 
age 1,000 human lives a-day; but, even if humanity were tion. The answ foie i Grote. On the contrary, the M ers had jounced t 
put out of the question, letnot this country, he said, expose Colonial and East Ini as ii ow dispo: principle was one of protection, not of 
to the scorn of now ing a Ww! e asserted e. As for auction “oy portir oye nes msumer, the | on timber, on sugar; duties were p 
so loftily,and paid for Ye in ms, but | language of Government was wholly fallacious. e price was | not find fault, he protection; but let not the Ministers 
im human life and human blood. The noble Lord taken credit | already lower than the rate to which the noble Lord had p ised | who acted on it profess to be the and perfect apostles of free 
to his o exclusive humanity. If that were the case, | that his m reduce it. He disclaimed for e noble Lord then entered into details, exhibiting the 
their so much the in ing the cause of hu- | himself and his n in: bi the | probable abundance of the future supplies of s fi own 
now. He could not ceive the motive which had in- | value of foreign trade ; but to a foreign trad y arag- | colonies, and the probable exces: supplies beyond any 
a a this measure to the House, unk ing the traffic in slaves, he was not prepared to t. likelih: tish consumption. The management of this ques- 
juced i ess 
it were that which was often found attendant upon 
— of eaeieed ae the close of Mr, Gladstone’s speech, the 
ebate was adjourned to Popa 
et puesday.-—A num eer ape petitions were presented, praying for | their e system. It was not for this dmit | to go the extreme length of saying that country oug! ex. 
an alteration in the Corn-laws, and for ~ abolition of Church- eir produce that amelioration shoul e clude all slave-grown produce. Such an exclusion would, 
rates. beach the latter ee were presented by Mr. Eastsors, whose | effect , She might rely on sufficient supplies th, be wholly impracticable. But he would not com 
notice fora motion on the subject of Sees rates stood first upon | from her own col , and from the East Indi Sir G. Grey | sent to a measure which went throw awa} the ui 
the pmo He commenced by saying that he felt how incon- | congratulated the House that at last, thri ights of reserve | of the great and costly ae nee now in progress. A pleasing 
venient must be any interference with the ate adj ed on | as of finance contem: y the Conservatives, Mr. | picture had been drawn of ar peceete state of our negro 
ing; but after th petitions that had burn had disclosed the secret that their let | population. To what ibe To our permanent 
been pi d on the subject, he could not postpone his motion, | things alone. Mr. e’s speech took a high tone of | encouragement of that West Indian staple which Ministers were 
but would suggest ight be allowed to- bring in his bill, | morality, but it was to last only while sugar was at 57s. The | now proposing to destroy by the admission. of the slave-grown 
to take the discussion on the secon ing: = concluded | truth was, that at the bottom of the resistance opposed by the | sugars of foreign plantations. felt deeply re pe distress of 
our manufacturing districts, but it would beco' mmment to 
th bi Brazil, 
Lord J. Russex. said that the had no objection to allow the bill 
to be laid on the table, that he might see what it was.—Dr. Ni- 
ought that per 
sure of such importance. He should move, by way of amend- | bacco ; but the people of Eng would take no such nice dis- | thought, some explan: of the fact t our 
the order of the day, that the adjourned debate be resumed. ctions rms their objection was y Pp slavery, in | were less flourishing ust ut he did not despair of the 
—Mr. Eastuors thought such treatment of th joners un- y the labour of the slave might be directed. To ex- | country’s finance, under pr agement. In the extraordi- 
fair, and said he id press his motion to a division —Some cine, pina all orn cagita tern inguin would be a ein nary expenses occasioned by our or 1 ? 
ant of the deficiency to be provided for. That the present 
on when every succeeding e election proved that Ministers 
could no longer hold the reins of oe as they had already long 
selected 
ind 
of a renewal of his motion for that day fortnight. since ceased to hold the reins of gove: ywnment, should be 4 
Leave was giv sixes to Mr. Hoskins to bring in a bill to exempt | In sugars would do just as much harm to the ‘est Indies, as | by them forsuch a revolution as 5 strange in’ _He 
lime, intended for ure, from the payment of turnpike tolls the same amount of foreign sugars havedone. It too | d ted the revolutionary principle of oor gy numbers into 
The Arrogner- Gunna. su Treland ses leave tobring i in | much, he thought, to ask of the English people, after all that they action against. property and intelligence, and ndemned the 
a bill a the more eas of arrears of composition for | had paid in the s! of compensation for the suppression of | course which Ministers were pursuing, for what y termed on 
tithes from persons of the persuasi jonof the peop! sie called Quakers, | slavery, to pay as much more in the annual shape of high prices | last d te chance of office. As his Lordship finished, the 
in Ireland. for th tenance of prohibition. The more subject was | House rose, and the debate was adjo' 
The order of the day having been read for resuming the ad- ter, he was sure, would it be understood by the Thursday.—After presentati ad 
journed debate on the Sugar Duties, Mr. Macauxay rose for the yandly- thinking apt of the people.—Mr. Goutnurn and Lord | tions, Mr. Muntz rose to submit the motion of which he b 
purpose of making some remarks on an attack (from Mr. Glad- Gaaeet made some remarks in explanation. The adjournment | given notice, for an address to the Queen, that inquiry 
stone) to which he had been ected the preceding evening ; of the debate was then moved, when Mr. Ixvine, to whom some into the conduct of the Cal 
hy d that he had not learned ti the re- ct allusions had been made by G. Grey, rose to express | a view-to ascertain his Lordship’s fitness to remain in the army- 
marks of which he had been made tf e us | his astonishment at having been singled out for attack, and ad- Lord J. Russewi suggested the postponement of the motion, 
enabled to come down to the House without any feeling of irrita- dressed the House against the Go He admit- {| on Gath ground that 2 beneng interfere with th p rtant d ble 
tion remaining on his | He had not intended originally to | ted that he was connected with i eS y | still pending. Mr. tz declined to perth , with the ak 
take any part in this debate. He was content to leave the ge other members of that ap and he wished them joy of the | Lord’s requ to take the sense of the Hi rere 
principles. of the measure to rest on the luminous ex ion of cern. He was inc! a eee to =e a vel upon the question a ution of Parliame: should ¥e3 
his noble friend, and to leave the details to his right hon Sir G. Grey for nm lace, and he thought he had no time to Macacl! 
lor of the Exchequer. ‘To the resolution of the noble | Wednesday. op) ion, because he thought it would ten toes ee 
Lord, for Liverpool, he looked in vain for the * The Exchequer Bills Bill (11,000,000/.) was read a third time | a v gerous p lent. G. Lennox defen coat 
principle at all; he saw in it merely askilfully- | and passed. gen character of Lord Cardigan. Sir H. Vivian goes Earl 
contrived motion, intended to displace advisers of the The House having gone into committee, Mr. Sraniry ros' a ersation he had had with Lord Cardigan, the Noble eet 
€rown, without committing their successors, for there no. | move a resolution for the purpose of enabling him to bring in a | had authorised him to express his . from eet nis 
thing im it to prevent those who were n s opponents from } Bill to authorise the Commissioners of Woods and Forests to | sense of duty, he had directed the p ent of a a neeat 
down on some future occasion with a precisely simil: oney arising from the sale of York House, belonging | regiment under the circumstances that have lately been ® pee 
He denied most positively that the b th wn revenue, to the purchase of a piece of ground in | the public. Mr. Ewart, Mr, WarsurToN, Lord ae son 
brought forward without a confident hope of bei the neighbourh Bethnal-green, for the the | Col. Satwey supported the motion of Mr. og tse Bad ae to 
its most material parts; for he had expected among sp etm on | peo eho Oe part of the metropolis.—Sir ked | ultimately negatived on a division by 135 to es 
side there would hav: patriotic men, who, without pons sige ‘would be?-—-Mr. E. J. Stacey replied | questions by Mr. Hume, Mr. Macautay said that Cai t ay from 
ng opposition te Ministry, would have affordeti | ti of wehase of York House of Prine > obtained leave of absent itary 
ern €i ima plan to prop the revenue without add- penins yrs nage with the interest accruing, amounted to 100,000/., | his regiment, for the p of re} to the es geerycn 
ing to the burdens of the people; nor had he renounced this ex- that would be sufficient for the entire expense. After some | College ; and that Dr. Sandham, of the e Tel onme days. 
pectation, till he had seen the notice given by the noble Lord the | opposition the resolution was agreed to, on the ground that op- | absent on leave, but that his leave would expire in a few Sagar 
member for Liverpool. He had been mistaken, b portunities would hereafter occur for a full discussion of = on the proposed reducti that the 
sown, and the time was not far distant when would | question. The House then resumed, and went through the duties was resumed by “Mr. BRorHsRTON, WhO oe ed 
je the law Of the: let. Qiinisters) might not then | maining orders of the day- of the Government ought to be comer yas, 
occupy the es as now, bat they would remain true to Wednesday.—Mr. Linpsa¥ took the oaths a whole, and not to be taken Bap or dear 
the ereat principles of their party, and it would not be the first | ber for Sandwich.—Mr. Munrz altered the form of ‘oe rien mof | whether’ the classes should or® 
time that that great party had beem proud to yield the harvest to | which hehad given notice for this evening. In its amended shape } bread, +5 resolution. 
had not e —Sir G. CLeae reminded the hon. gentleman’s motion is for an address to the Crown, pray- | less ? Capt. Hamitron supported Lord Sendow ment PFopO- 
e, that only last year, upon Mr. Ewart's motion for this very | ing that an be instituted into the conduct of the Earl | —Mr. Arsrox could not understand how the Governme™s Pra, 
mare, the vote of Mr. ie thous been eens: of in command of the lith regiment —Sixteen sition foe the reducer ns = otis ue to give cheap 
The were incapable anal orders that precedence having been postponed, the tending to encourage 
country Like this, where the artigedal | adjourseddebaitonthe reduction of the sugarduties wasresumed | sugar £0 classes, but he was ready to resist S27 
