CARMINOW OF CARMINOW. 227 



sinister side a coat of arms quarterly, displaying Arundell, 

 Dynham, Chideocke, and " 4tli Azure, a bend Or, for Carminow." 



The subject of this portrait was the grandson of Sir Thomas 

 Arundell and Margaret Howard, sister of Queen Katherine, 

 fifth wife of Henry VIII, and was created first Baron Arundell 

 May 4, 1605.-^' He died November 7, 1639. 



7. A.D. 1593. The seal of Oliver Carmynowe attached to a 

 deed which bears his signature, also at the Record Ofiice, has no 

 label.f 



The Scrope and Grosvenor Eoll has already been cited in sup- 

 port of the antiquity of this family ; let us now see what aid it 

 gives to these proofs of the undifferenced arms. A few words 

 are necessary by way of introduction of this important document. 

 The Eoll contains a record in Norman French of the trial, in the 

 Earl Marshal's Court, in the reign of E-iehard II, of a contro- 

 versy between Sir Eichard le Scrope and Sir Eobert Grosvenor as 

 to the right of the latter to bear the same arms as Scrope. The 

 trial lasted more than four years, 1385 to 1390. Judgment was 

 given by the King in person in favour of Scrope. Scropes' arms 

 are the same as Carminow. | 



The parchment Eoll was formerly at the Tower, and is now at 

 the Public Eecord Office. It is of great length, formed of sepa- 

 rate membranes united. It is imperfect, in having lost the judg- 

 ment of the King and the depositions of many witnesses. More 

 than 200 witnesses gave evidence in favour of Scrope, and 

 amongst them were some of the most famous personages of the 

 time, e.g. John of G-aunt, Duke of Lancaster, and the poet Chaucer. 

 The depositions were taken, in part, if not wholly, at the Palace 

 of John of Gaunt in the Friar's Carmelites at Plymouth, by 

 Commissioners appointed by the Constable. John of Gaunt was 

 about to set out from Plymouth in 1386 on an expedition to re- 

 cover the kingdom of Castile and Leou, which he claimed in right 



* This portrait was exhibited June 5, 1874. See Journal of R. Archjeol ; 

 Inst : Vol : 31, p. 303 



t See plate, fig : 3. 



J These particulars are gathered from Sir Harris Nicolas' handsome work 

 the "Scrope and Grosvenor Controversy," imp. 8vo., privately printed 1832, 150 

 copies only, with preface, notes, and illustrations ; to which he intended to add a 

 3rd volume relating to Carminow, &c., never printed. 



