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Mr. Hansen. And the experiences, according to all these things 

 I have been reading, one is fishing, one is boating, and what else 

 is there? 



Mr. KULESZA. Those are the two primary uses on the Green 

 River. Rafting, boating, and fishing. There is also hiking. 



Mr. Hansen. Hiking? 



Mr. KuLESZA. Yes. 



Mr. Hansen. People hike along the river? 



Mr. KuLESZA. Along the National recreation trail primarily, 

 seven miles from the spillway to what we call the Little Hole, 

 which is in section A. 



Mr. Hansen. They come down to Little Hole, and then they go 

 down to what, Brown's Pond or something like that? 



Mr. KuLESZA. Some go down to Brown's Pond, right. 



Mr. Hansen. And they go from Little Hole down to Brown's? 



Mr. KuLESZA. There is a trail from Little Hole halfway down into 

 Section B and then there is another segment of the trail that comes 

 up the other way. They do not connect. 



Mr. Hansen. Aren't most of those people fisherman that walk 

 along there? 



Mr. KuLESZA. Excuse me? 



Mr. Hansen. Aren't most of those folks fishermen who walk 

 along there? 



Mr. KuLESZA. Yes, they are. 



Mr. Hansen. So fishing probably is the biggest use of the river. 

 Would you agree with that? 



Mr. KuLESZA. That is correct, Mr. Chairman. 



Mr. Hansen. When they get below Little Hole, then there is 

 some rafting where they go down and go around and go through 

 what they call Hell's Half Mile, where they shoot rapids and all 

 those different things. I have done it a couple times. I just can't re- 

 member all the names. 



But that would be rafting from there on down, I would assume. 

 Js that right? 



Mr. KuLESZA. There is rafting from that point down, but there 

 is also considerable recreational rafting from the spillway to Little 

 Hole as well. 



Mr. Hansen. Say a person has a commercial — what do they call 

 those things, dories where you stand up and fish in front of them 

 and you have the plate on your knees and all that kind of stuff? 



Those people are very jealous of whatever they call them, the 

 sloth permits, the use that they have on the river. I was looking 

 at this proposed plan, and if this proposed plan goes through, what 

 do they do? They have to adjust their use of the river to fit the For- 

 est Service plan? 



Mr. Kulesza. Are you speaking of the commercial outfitters? 



Mr. Hansen. Yes, I am. 



Mr. Kulesza. The proposal that we have will continue to have 

 the same number of outfitters that we currently have, and the 

 amount of use available to those outfitters will not be significantly 

 diminished. 



Mr. Hansen. What about the private use of the river? The person 

 who just does it on his own, is he limited then? 



