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The Chairman. Yes. 



Ms. LeCornu. As far as the first land claims, ANILCA was re- 

 medial legislation for the subsistence, and I have stated that we 

 have not had any compliance from the State of Alaska. We are still 

 looking for that promise that was made to us. 



The Chairman. By the state. 



Ms. LeCornu. By the Federal Government for our land claims. 

 What I am talking about is termination. Are we going to have a 

 termination act like the first land claims? Is it going to be termi- 

 nation? My daughter is not a shareholder. 



The Chairman. She could be. You can vote for that now. 



Ms. LeCornu. Right, but she should have been entitled to it be- 

 fore I had to vote on it. 



The Chairman. Was she bom when it was passed? 



Ms. LeCornu. No. 



The Chairman. That is what it said, at that time. Now it was 

 amended, and I helped put that amendment in, where now she can 

 become a shareholder if you decide she can be. 



Ms. LeCornu. I still do not still agree that is a very fortunate 

 situation to be put in. 



The Chairman. I understand that, but that is, like I say, yester- 

 year, and that was 1971, when Mr. Morrison — very frankly, I was 

 not elected in 1971. I was elected in 1973. And that was after that 

 act, but I have worked very closely with that act, trying to imple- 

 ment what is correct because you have asked me — none of these 

 ideas are mine. I did not think up the landless bill. That came 

 right from the landless groups. It came to my office about ten years 

 ago and said this was not fair. We were defranchised. Not only did 

 we not receive the money, we did not receive, in fact, land B. 



I want to thank you for testifying. I appreciate your input. I un- 

 derstand we do not agree. I do thank you very much. 



Next panel, Panel V, Brad Powell. 



Mr. Powell has had the privilege and the honor and the oppor- 

 tunity to be cleanup batter, I believe, twice, and I have asked him 

 respectfully to submit his testimony orally and written and both 

 times I think he has done an excellent job. 



Mr. Powell you are up. 



STATEMENT OF BRAD POWELL, FOREST SUPERVISOR, U.S. 

 FOREST SERVICE, KETCHIKAN 



Mr. Powell. Thank you, and I will be very brief today as I know 

 you have heard many of these comments in previous testimony 

 from the Forest Service. 



I am pleased to have the opportunity to discuss the management 

 of the Tongass National Forest and present the Administration's 

 views on H.R. 2413. The Department of Agriculture opposes enact- 

 ment of this bill. 



For over a hundred years, during good economic times and bad, 

 public lands have been a source of goods and services that supply 

 local and regional economic growth and diversity. The national for- 

 est system, covering more than 191 million acres, is an important 

 part of these public lands. 



By and large, Forest Service stewardship has been a success. 

 Through multiple-use management, a concept that balances envi- 



