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Mr. A.NDER80N [California]. Thank yon. Mr. Chairman, 

 Mr. Lbggett. Very good. 



Mr. Studds. 



Mr. Studds. Mr. Cary, in your succinct statement you indicated 

 that if the United Slates fleel is destroyed, that is no solution. 



I f the United State- fleet is out of business no porpoises are saved. 



Are you implying that if you stopped, foreign fleets would move in 

 with no sensitivity to porpoises? 



Mr. Cart. No. 



T am looking at what our vessels are doing. 



We are looking at progress ami steady progress and progress in a 

 reasonable time span. 



This takes us into the area of what foreign governments would 

 rule upon. 



T don't know what the ruling would ho. 



I cannot demonstrate, therefore, that there would be any saving. 



Mr. Studds. Well, in issues like this there are always compelling 

 arguments on both sides. 



The witnesses today presented excellent testimony. 



I will commend you for it. And I pledge to work' with the com- 

 mittee chairman and others to find a way to ameliorate the problem- 

 associated with this issue, but inevitably, we come to the matter of 

 language, and that is going to be difficult because now the issue is 

 further complicated by administrative rulings and court decisions, so 

 it is going to take some fancy writing and a great amount of per- 

 suasion, and I think the committee should be committed to finding a 

 legislative remedy. 



I am a little disappointed that in issues like this, congressional 

 intent isn't fully aired because frequently after the executive branch 

 proceeds with drafting or promulgating rules, sometimes that intent 

 is distorted and not fully carried out and we are back at the draft- 

 ing board. 



Therefore, I hope that in future cases we can more clearly spell 

 out congressional intent so there is not a great deal of confusion and 

 contradiction. 



I do not have any more questions. 



Mr. Leggett. Thank you. 



I do not know how much you pledged there, but T think it is the 

 view of the committee that Ave want to achieve these goals and we 

 want to achieve them without oivinc people a heart attack. 



On the other hand. T don't think we are going f ] )0 a ble ro 

 achieve the coals Ave intend unless Ave keep everybody kind of un- 

 comfortable. 



Mr. Studds. I have one request of Mr. Felando. 



If you could submit some suggested language for amendments to 

 the committee, at least Ave have then something to look at. 



Mr. Felando. Yes. I will. 



Thank you. 



Mr. Lf.ogett. Mr. Bonior. 



Mr. Bonior. Mr. Felando. T Avas looking over the U.S. Department 

 of Commerce cruise report, and T am interested in knowing if you or 

 any of the other panel members can shed some light on the new tech- 



