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Ms. STEVENS. I would like to read just the six summary points 

 because this is truly upbeat — since we are talking about that subject. 

 These are the points that really seem to make a difference in saving 

 dolphins. This has been agreed to by James Coe, Phillip Vergne, 

 Isadore Barrett, and Frank Alverson : 



(1) Set positioning to minimize negative effects of wind and current; 



(2) Early recognition of potential net collapse areas and use of speed- 

 boat (s) to preven collapse; 



(3) Use of speedboat (s) to herd porpoise out of potential danger areas; 



(4) Use of speedboats to adjust backdown area corkline prior to backdown; 



(5) Consistent use of two or three speedboats at backdown apex to prevent 

 fish loss and to rescue porpoise ; and 



(6) Consistent backing down until all live porpoise are out of the net (very 

 important). 



And since we have been through so many hearings, I think you re- 

 member, Mr. Chairman, how hard the industry fought against the 

 idea of having two speedboats to hold the net open. They argued 

 and argued that this would frighten the dolphins and more would 

 die than before. Now it has been conclusively proved that the two 

 speedboats are essential. They are basic. The industry has fought 

 every tiny little improvement just as hard as they are doing now. 

 So I have absolutely no use for the way they present things. 

 However, I think they are perfectly capable of doing this thing 

 right. It is up to the Congress and up to the National Marine 

 Fisheries Service to force them. They will not do it until they are 

 forced. 



Now, I do not say that is true of all captains by any means; but 

 I do say it is true of the industry as a whole. They are determined 

 to be monolithic. And not until you stop this monolithic position in 

 which all the bad captains are being covered up for and the good 

 captains — well, goodness knows why they allow it, but they do seem 

 to. I imagine they allow it because they think the industry can just 

 push the whole country around and force a continuation of this 

 approximately 100,000 kill of porpoises every year. It is not neces- 

 sary. 



Captain Jorge said that when he heard from his brother how well 

 that new equipment worked, he wanted to get some more right away 

 and as soon as he used it he had immediate success. It did not take 

 him months or years at all to learn how to save the dolphins. He 

 just went out there and did it. 



Now, as to the foreign fleets, that is something that has not been 

 brought up nearly enough. They must be forced to comply. I do not 

 understand why Mr. Felando is always trying to say that foreign 

 fleets are not the "bad guys" and we do not want to say anything 

 about them that is bad. It seems to me there is much too much talk 

 about nobody being bad around here. If we could only get down to 

 removing the bad ones, the good ones would be in good shape, I 

 think. 



The State Department has been verv feeble, and apparently Com- 

 merce has not done anything either. So we ask you. Mr. Chairman, 

 from these oversight hearings, to tell these agencies to get busy and 

 require compliance by foreign fleets. It is absurd for the foreign fleets 

 not to have to live up to the same regulations — which should be very 

 strong — that the American fleet must live up to. 



