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However, he is in New York. 



I hope to get him back here next week. He indicated he was going 

 to be talking with his counterparts on the east coast and elsewhere 

 and see what they could do on an international level to coordinate 

 some program by labor to protect the American jobs that are in 

 jeopardy right now. 



I find it very difficult, Mr. Chairman and members of the com- 

 mittee, to sit here and hear some people talk and treat the industry 

 and treat our jobs and our livelihood with such a cavalier type of 

 attitude, like it is not really that important. 



It is not important maybe to some people, but to those people that 

 it is their livelihood, it is very, very important. 



These people are not going to be easily retrainable or find employ- 

 ment elsewhere. 



It is a father-son tradition. 



I think our Government in all honesty owes us something. 



We have been slammed around now like I said earlier, since the 

 end of World War II. 



We have got very little assistance from our Government and a lot 

 of people. We have been used, I think, as a scapegoat. We led the 

 first juridicial U.S. position on the Law of the Seas, the 200-mile war, 

 and we took the brunt of that. 



We did not get the support we should have gottem 



I only cite this to say somewhere down the line it is our turn. We 

 should have our day in court somewhere or somebody is going to say, 

 this industry, we think, has had enough. 



Let us let them breathe a little bit, let's let them work. 



We are not out to put the porpoise out of business and kill the 

 porpoise. We do not disagree wholeheartedly with what environ- 

 mentalists have said to us. 



We have met with these people and worked with them. I am very 

 pleased with the track record up to now. 



I am very impressed, in fact. 



I know what the industry has done in cooperating with the en- 

 vironmentalists, with the Government agencies, with Congress and 

 the intent of the act. 



I think if common sense can prevail here, and people can keep 

 their heads cool and get the emotion out of it and continue on the 

 way we are going, I think we are going to finally get to that plateau 

 where it is going to satisfy environmentalists, protectionists and the 

 tuna industry, to where we are protecting porpoise stocks and at the 

 same time we can survive as an industry and continue to work and 

 make a livelihood. 



As I said in the past, you cannot turn 200 years of ills around in 

 200 days. 



It is impossible. 



Once you recognize the problem and you stop it and you reverse 

 the trend, and you move in the right direction, then I think people 

 show more consideration. 



I was very disturbed today sitting in the audience, and I probably 

 would not have been as calm 10 years ago, to sit there and have 

 learned people say that fishermen are liars 



