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One point I should have made a while a!?o to yon and the com- 

 mittee is that I am on the Pacific Marine Regional Council of the 

 Two Hundred Mile Extension Act. You know, we told everybody in 

 the United States that we have got to go out and protect ourselves 

 at 200 miles. We got a big problem with enforcement capabilities: 

 aircraft, ships, personnel, men, Coast Guard; you name it. 



You know, it seems to me we would be far better off trying to 

 protect that 200 miles from Maine to Alaska and those resources in 

 there from foreign encroachment and other things that are taking 

 place, Mr. Chairman, than to spend so much time and effort going 

 15.000 miles out in the Pacific Ocean. 



Mr. Leggett. Well, hake is being taken out there 



Mr. Royal. But who eats hake? 



Mr. Leggett. But I say that is a large part of what is being taken 

 out there. 



Mr. Alverson. Perhaps the fee taken for purposes of fishing for 

 hake, Mr. Chairman, can go towards the $90 million it takes the 

 Coast Guard to go out there and catch people that are paying that 

 $15 million fee. 



Mr. Leggett. Right. We intend that this program be self-sustain- 



ing 



Mr. Royal. You made a point earlier that I think was an excellent 

 point, that the money the Government hopes to derive from foreign 

 fishing licenses that 'is going to the U.S. Treasury, that maybe that 

 money could be— and I think originally was intended— to bring some 

 relief to the domestic industry. I am hoping that would be one 

 approach or resolution to this financial problem. 



Mr. Leggett. Your industry did pay, I think, $20,000 a boat last 

 year to Ecuador. As I understand it, the industry is not paying any- 

 thing this year. Is that correct ? 



Nobody is taking out a license this year? 



Mr. Felando. You mean the foreign? 



Mr. Leggett. Yes. 



Mr. Felando. Definitely when Peru increased from $20 to $80 a 

 net ton — and that would be, I guess, on a vessel, well, about $48,000, 

 I guess— to look for fish off the coast of Peru, well, the idea of fishing 

 off Peru became a problem. I do not know of any vessel that pur- 

 chased any license from Peru. I do not know any license purchase:? 

 off of Ecuador this year, but I can check on it. 



Mr. Leggett. Have they gone to $80 per ton, too? 



Mr. Felando. $60. But there is a problem with Ecuador, in that- 

 even if vou have a license, you cannot fish and are subject to seizure 

 if vou fish within 60 miles' of the coast or 60 miles of their island. 



Mr. Leggett. OK. And that is on the basis of tonnage of the vessel '■■ 



Mr. Felando. The net tonnage of the vessel as indicated in the 

 ship's document. 



Mr. Leggett. Mr. Anderson? 



Mr. Anderson. Another question. I believe you and others have 

 mentioned certain amendments. Do you have any amendments that 

 you are suggesting to us? What will they be? 



Mr. Fellando. Well, I think we have Mr. Hodges, who has some 

 views on these amendments. Rather than take the time to explain 



