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Mr. Gehringer. Correct. 



Mr. Leggett. For the big ships ? 



Mr. Gehringer. Correct. 



Mr. Leggett. And then, in addition to that, let us see, I see in the 

 bill we provide under — on line 14, on page 2, "not to exceed $8 mil- 

 lion for the fiscal year ending September 30, 1977." 



Now, you say, "We have not had a sufficient opportunity to analyze 

 the level of funding proposed in the bill with respect to the total 

 Federal budget, in view of our own projected needs for fiscal year 

 1978, based on the current situation, it would appear that the levels 

 are in excess of our current needs." 



Did we get those numbers from you? 



Is this an administration bill or is that my bill? 



Mr. Gehringer. That is your bill, sir. 



Mr. McCloskey. Would the gentlemen yield for a question? 



Mr. Leggett. Yes. 



Mr. McCloskey. Do I understand from your testimony on this bill 

 at page 2, you would replace the sum of $8 million with the figure 

 $5.5, and on the next line the figure $10 million with $7 million ? 



Mr. Gehringer. Yes, sir. 



Those figures are adequate for 1977. 



Mr. McCloskey. Does that answer your question Mr. Chairman ? 



Mr. Leggett. OK, he would replace $8 million with $5.5. 



Mr. McCloskey. And $10 million with $7. 



Mr. Leggett. And $10 million with $7 million, and now would 

 that make it then your bill? 



Mr. Gehringer. With those changes, that would be our proposal, 

 yes, sir. 



Mr. Leggett. Counsel advises me that these were department num- 

 bers and not our numbers originally, and that is why we put them 

 in like this. 



Mr. Gehringer. They may well have been, sir. 



Mr. Leggett. Well, let me ask you this. 



Do you have any knowledge that any of these numbers have been 

 revised ? 



Mr. Gehringer. My understanding is that the figures that I quoted 

 you today are the current figures of what are necessary for 1977 

 and 1978. 



Mr. Leggett. OK. Well 



Mr. Forsythe. Mr. Chairman, will you yield? 



Mr. Leggett. Yes, sir. 



Mr. Forsythe. These are numbers cleared by OMB? 

 Mr. Gehringer. Yes sir. 

 Mr. Forsythe. That is the bottom line of it. 

 Mr. Forsythe. Let me just ask this then. 



Is $8 million and $10 million what the agency believes that they 

 can use unrestrained by OMB? 



Mr. Gehringer. I think our position is 



Mr. Leggett. If you do not know, we will get your boss up here. 

 Mr. Gehringer. Our position is that we can probably use more 

 dollars than we are asking for, but we can handle the requirement 

 with these revised figures, yes, sir. 



