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Mi-. Twiss. There was testimony to tliat effect, Mr. Forsvtlie, and 

 1 would be happy to submit Dr. Chapman's testimony for the record 

 if \oii would like. 



Mr. Forbythe. I think we should have that. 



Mr. Leqgi it. All right. 



Mr. Forsythe. I would appreciate it. 



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Mr. Leggett. We ought to be getting that whole record from over 

 there on a day-to-day basis, ami if we are not, let us go ahead and 

 do that. 



Mr. Forsythe. I agree with you. 



I have no further questions. 



Mr. Leggett. Mr. Hughes. 



Mr. Hughes. No questions, Mr. Chairman. 



Mr. Leggett. Mr. Akaka. 



Mr. Akaka. Yes, Mr. Chairman. 



I see in your testimony that you put emphasis on tuna-porpoise 

 problems. 



Mr. TwiSS. Yes. 



Mr. Akaka. My question is, what are the problems you cite for 

 1978? 



Mr. Twiss. One of the basic issues which we see facing further 

 resolution of the tuna-porpoise problem is making optimum use of 

 this dedicated research vessel that the industry has agreed to make 

 available for a year. 



The issues that we see associated with this are first : careful plan- 

 ning for effective use of that vessel ; second : onsite management of 

 the research activities ; and third : forcing the scientists, technicians, 

 et cetera to get their results together in a useful form as soon as 

 possible after that cruise is completed. 



We have offered to provide a scientific loader under contract to 

 the Commission to coordinate planning, to be at sea for the entire 

 cruise, and to ramrod the writing of reports quickly after the cruise 

 is over. That would be a major part of the expenses. 



In addition, funds would be provided for the chief scientist's 

 own research activities while onboard. 



Also, the Chairman of the Commission, the staff, and selected 

 members of the Committee of Scientific Advisers will continue to 

 work directly with the National Marine Fisheries Service, the in- 

 dustry, and others to refine survey techniques and plans, to review all 

 research, and generally contribute constructively. 



Rousrhly $196,000 was spent in fiscal year 1976, and I should think 

 it would be in that neighborhood this year. 



Mr. Akaka. Is that considered as a research effort? 



Mr. Twrss. Yes; it is. 



Mr. Akaka. Is that where part of the $100,000 will be sroing? 



Mr. Twiss. Well, it depends upon where we cut the $100,000 from. 



A portion of it would certainly come from tuna-porpoise. 



Mr. Akaka. You also mention a workshop in vour testimonv. 



Mr. Twiss. Yes. 



Mr. Akaka. What is the purpose of the workshop and what is the 

 content of the workshop ? 



