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Mr. Twiss. The workshop mentioned in the testimony ? 



Mr. Akaka. Yes. 



Mr. Twiss. The one which I mentioned was held in La Jolla in 

 December 1975. At that workshop, all plans for the dedicated re- 

 search vessel cruise which took place last fall were made. The basis 

 for the behavioral cruise was developed out of the Commission's 

 workshop. That was the Elizabeth C.J. cruise, for clarification. 



Mr. Akaka. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 



Mr. Leggett. Thank you, Mr. Akaka. 



Have any of you gentlemen ever seen a dugong ? 



Mr. Twiss. I have not. 



Mr. Leggett. Mr. Akaka, have you seen a dugong? 



Mr. Akaka. I have seen a picture of it. 



Mr. Leggett. I hope somebody can give the committee a picture 

 sometime. 



Have you seen one ? 



Mr. Twiss. Yes ; we have, in fact, pictures of dugongs. 



Mr. Leggett. Very good. 



Are you managing them effectively ? 



Mr. Twiss. We have not had a great deal to do with dugongs 

 to date. 



Mr. Leggett. If you ever find some, you will manage it very 

 effectively ? 



Mr. Twiss. Yes, sir. 



Mr. Leggett. That is really assuring. 



Mr. Trible. 



Mr. Trible. No questions. 



Mr. Leggett. Counsel. 



Mr. Mannina. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 



John, I understand that the Commission recently sponsored a 

 meeting to discuss the permit procedures under the Marine Mammal 

 Protection Act. 



Can you submit to the committee the minutes of the meeting or 

 what transpired and what recommendations should be made by this 

 committee with respect to the permit systems? 



Mr. Twiss. I shall submit the letters sent to Messrs. Schoning and 

 Greenwald, summarizing the meeting and making certain recom- 

 mendations. 



Is that adequate? 



Mr. Mannina. That letter will be adequate. 



Could you advise the Committee on the present status of the care 

 and maintenance standards which the Commission wrote and which, 

 during the last oversight hearings back in, I believe, October of 1975, 

 it was indicated they would be published in 4 months? 



They are not published at this point? 



Mr. Twiss. The standards have not been published by the Depart- 

 ment of Agriculture. They say they will be published by April 1. 

 This is the last in a long series of delays, and I view their estimate 

 with great reservation. 



If you would like, I would be glad to supply a letter covering 

 the situation. 



Mr. Mannina. Thank you. 



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