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ness and science of this indicate that there would be no problem 

 at all. 



As you add up in the money in terms of the cost of the bill, be 

 sure to add about $30 million that will be lost from the local econ- 

 omy, which normally does not show up on these ledger sheets. 



I appreciate the gentlewoman from the Bay area indicating that 

 they are going to reach out with job training and job counseling. 

 My folk want real work with real wages. It is interesting to me 

 that when there were antiquated military bases that were to be 

 closed in particular areas of the State, some of these people came 

 unglued and fought to preserve those bases because of the jobs, and 

 I certainly believe that we should reach out with job training and 

 job counseling. 



But when you take a look at the decisions that have been made 

 over the last 5 years — I find it interesting that our colleague men- 

 tioned a 1989 study — the science is evolving. The Yellowstone fire 

 gave us significant new information. We are beginning to look at 

 the world differently than we did, and I would tell my friend from 

 California, all you have to do is go and look at the hydraulic min- 

 ing areas in terms of devastation and destruction. 



Anyone can turn back the clock and show where we made mis- 

 takes. The problem is locking in current knowledge in a way that 

 you cannot improve your ability to deal with this issue in the fu- 

 ture. That is the fundamental problem with this. The beliefs of a 

 generation ago were wrong, but today's beliefs are not necessarily 

 the best way to deal with the problem tomorrow. 



What we are asking is that you not stop the clock in terms of 

 the learning and the science of how to deal with these magnificent 

 specimens but that you continue with the current structure, which 

 is an evolving one and which will give the giant sequoias the best 

 chance of survival. 



Mr. Peterson. Do any other members have questions? Rep- 

 resentative Dooley. 



Mr. Dooley. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 



I ask unanimous consent to have my written statement inserted 

 into the record. 



Mr. Peterson. Without objection. 



[The prepared statement of Mr. Dooley follows:] 



