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We are appreciative of your assistance to this committee. 



Are there questions? t • x. x 



Mr. Anderson. Mr. Kimball, I just want to say that I wish to com- 

 mend you for your very fine statement, and particularly to thank you 

 for your offer of support to the bill that I have introduced, H.R. 10420. 



We are aware that there are some deficiencies in it, perhaps, and we 

 will take the suggestion that you make, and go through them pomt by 

 point, because we do not consider it as a finished bill right as of now. 

 It has some answers, and perhaps it is a step in the right direction. 



Thank you for your comments. i j v i . 



Mr. Kimball. Mr. Anderson, one of the suggestions I would like to 

 make is that the legislation address itself to the international problem. 



Marine mammals are creatures of the open sea, and as such, the 

 jurisdiction over their taking and use and management is between 



many nations. 



This is one of the real problems of protecting these particular mam- 

 mals, and hopefully, the efforts of the United States could be directed 

 toward developing some type of international agreement on the man- 

 agement of these species. 



It would be based again upon factual research data. If we could 

 pattern it somewhat after the Pribilof seals where nations have agreed 

 upon the harvest of only the surplus, and it is done at a particular 

 time and season so that the basic broodstocks are protected, this could 

 be applied to the other endangered marine mammals. This would be 

 the thrust of the U.S. effort to really help these particular mammals. 



Mr. Anderson. I noticed you had eight or 10 suggestions. Are they 

 in written form. 



Mr. Kimball. Yes, they are. 



Mr. Anderson. They are covered in your statement ? 



Mr. Kimball. Yes. 



Mr. Anderson. Thank you very much. 



Mr. DiNGELL. Any further questions ? 



Thank you again, Mr. Kimball. 



Our next witness is Mr. Cleveland Amory, president, the Fund for 

 Animals, New York City. 



STATEMENT OF CLEVELAND AMORY, PRESIDENT, THE FUND FOR 



ANIMALS, NEW YORK CITY 



Mr. Amory. Thank you, Mr. Dingell. 



Mr. Chairman, members of the committee, my name is Cleveland 

 Amory. I am president of the Fund for Animals, a national anti- 

 cruelty society with offices at 140 West 57th Street, in New York, and 

 I am here to testify for the Harris-Pryor Bill, H.R. 6558. 



There is one particular area of the matter that concerns us this 

 morning to which I would like to address myself, if you will so permit. 

 And that is how the public feels. I have had unusual opportunity to 

 learn how it feels from three directions — first, from the letters I re- 

 ceive from the magazines I write for ; second, from the letters I re- 

 ceive from talks I have made on various radio and television sho\^; 

 and third, at the grassroots level, by actually talking with people in 

 more than 40 American cities so far this year. 



The organization of which I am president presently shares, with 

 other major conservation organizations such as the National Audubon 



