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marine mammal protection, because we have taken other attitudes in 

 the past. 



I think that once we show other nations what we think the path 

 should be. they would be willing to join in. 



It would appear to me that the best thing that could happen to vou 

 is having Congress enact a strong bill that will give you a lot of muscle 

 so that you will have the necessary authority to negotiate. 



Mr. Pellt. Mr. Kyros. will you yield ? 



Mr. Ktros. I yield. 



Mr. Pellt. I had in mind, when you said we should pass a strong 

 bill, to indicate to these foreign countries that we meant business in 

 connection with the Xorth Atlantic salmon. 



I am hopeful that we will pass a bill and encourage Denmark to 

 come into the conmiunity of nations and practice conservation. 



I agree with you. 



Mr. Ktros. I can see salmon back in the Penobscot River some day. 



Mr. Pellt. I was over in Scotland during the recess, and they had 

 the lowest catch of salmon in history. And. obviously, it is due to the 

 fact of the indiscriminate taking of the North Atlantic salmon off 

 of Greenland. 



Mr. McKerxax. It has been very slow in Canada, also, and it is a 

 very serious matter. 



Mr. Pellt, It indicates that the agreement to hold the catch at its 

 previous level is too high, and some more restrictive measures must 

 be taken. 



Mr. Ktros. Thank you. Mr. Chairman. 



Mr. DixGELL. Mr. Anderson '( 



Mr. AxDERSox. Thank you. Mr. Chairman. 



I would like to clarify my own understanding of the Fur Seal 

 Treaty. My understanding is "that of the seals that we harvest on our 

 side, the 50.0<X) fur seals each summer, we get 70 percent of those, and 

 15 percent each go to Japan and Canada. 



Xow. Russia does the same thing. Is Russia's annual take also 

 50.000 ? 



Mr. McKerxax. Xo. Their take is much smaller than that, and is 

 more on the order of. I think, about 16.000 from the Soviet rookeries 

 because the herd is much smaller. In fact, it had practically disap- 

 peared in earlier years and has recently come back. 



Mr. AxDERSoxl And 30 percent of that take also goes to Japan and 

 Canada, so they get 30 percent of the take, regardless of where it is 

 taken ? 



Mr. McKerxax. That is correct. 



Mr. AxDERSOx. Xow. we get a large share. Is that part of the opera- 

 tion ? 



Mr. McKerxax*. Yes : generally so. I cannot give you the economics 

 of that at the present time. This is under the direction of the Depart- 

 ment of Commerce and their National Marine Fisheries Service, and 

 I am sure they can give you the exact figures. 



I tliink. generally, the answer to your question is yes. but I cannot 

 tell vou precisely. 



Mr. Ax-DERSox. Where is the Russian base ? 



Mr. McKerx'ax'. The Commander Islands, an extension of the Aleu- 

 tian Islands over onto the Soviet side of the Xorth Pacific Ocean. 



